Epicmafia

an ending

deletedabout 6 years

3 months ago I asked for a site ban as a freed person to escape the bullying on this site. I ended up having to get banned to get this though. Now today I am finally again a freed person, but I again am leaving this site.

main reasons for this:

a few people here with power run this place like a junior high and they will never stop trying to start drama and more specifically target me with their bullying at any cost. I just wanted a new start and to play in peace, but that was not an option for the leadership
the lc rules as they are are beyond a mess. I was going to make a thread on this, but it would be like 10 pages. I will discuss a small aspect of this in 3
In spite of being banned for 3 months for lc, I still will have 2 vios for 3 months and Lc again would be an instant ban. I am basically not allowed to play with anyone without getting a vio threat, so like I would probably get this vio within a few weeks, even if for an accident again. Then 3 months after I was unbanned again, I would still have a vio and get another within a few weeks again. This basically means that while I am unbanned, I still can't play for 3 more months, because of how they give these vios out. while this is not really right, I do not care now though because this website is a train wreck waiting to happen

I still want to give all my complaints to the leadership about the rules before I go. I started a thread but it was too long

I would say have fun here, but only the "cool kid bullies ever can"..Good luck all. There are a few of you that I will miss. Thanks to the few of you that were supportive to me over the past years

Change LC rules

5 signed

LC rules should go back to their old requirements of a recent gt/harass vio, proof that they joined several games of the person, had other games to join, and they joined to antagonize the person.

deletedabout 6 years

I am so addicted to pain....cya again and hopefully for good :)

SHERK

about 6 years

JonSnow says

What upsets me the most are people like Mike who know so little yet talk so much. For someone who is a " T type " you sure lack the common sense to at least inform yourself before opening your mouth. Sorry but you've crossed some lines with your stupidness. You have no idea how much time i've spent trying to help her as a human being first, as an admin second and all was in vain because she is unreasonable. Countless of wasted hours, no matter how much i tried it was never a dialogue , only a monologue on both sides. She only cares about her viewpoint and she only cares about what bothers her and disregards any other opinion. I won't go into further details, the situation is even worse than it looks, just remember not to believe anything you read and if you decide to give someone the benefit of the doubt which ia noble, don't also forget to inform yourself and be objective, after all you re a thinker , right mate?

top 10 epik mafion takedowns of 2018

deletedabout 6 years

omg jon snapped

JM123

about 6 years

i bet my 4 trophies that this isnt really gonna be the 'ending'

xela

about 6 years

quick bolt the door

deletedabout 6 years

anyways I am out for real now for the original reasons discussed in this thread. I hate that I have to leave a website of like 3 years over these problems, but it is for the best.

my last wish is that you fix the problems with this site. this is the worst one now: https://epicmafia.com/topic/90869

In addition to this hipfire/trolling also needs fixed. I have prior threads on this from earlier this year.

If anyone ever wants another place to play mafia look at town of salem. I have been there for 3months and there is good quality mafia without all the problems that we have here

deletedabout 6 years

JonSnow says

You have no idea how much time i've spent trying to help her as a human being first, as an admin second and all was in vain because she is unreasonable.

I know that i hurt you deeply a month ago, and I am sorry. I can't do anything else beyond apologize for this. I tried to move past it with you all, but i was not allowed to. I logged back in again to just write this again

JonSnow says

Countless of wasted hours, no matter how much i tried it was never a dialogue , only a monologue on both sides. She only cares about her viewpoint and she only cares about what bothers her and disregards any other opinion. I won't go into further details, the situation is even worse than it looks....

I know that this is frustrating for you guys, but it was also frustrating to me. Like I fight you guys for weeks on things and I was never even heard. Like my most recent report spam vio on sassy is an example. I sent both you and denial like pages of messages on this alone. finally after weeks of this denial looked at it and agreed it was not right for ally to tell me to report her if I needed to comment on a report that she was doing and then to give me a report spam vio for listening to her. before this he was telling me for weeks that it was deserved, but I do not think he even understood it...

I am sorry that I was annoying and could not listen a lot of the time. from my side I just felt like I was constantly getting attacked and no one would give me a fair chance or listen to my side either. I think that this in combination with my health issues and my inability to articulate things well was a bad combination

In regards to the mike stuff, I think that you were wrong here to attack him. he witnessed Charley just attacking me here and called her out on doing it and then deleting it. Calling mods out on not being professional is not a problem. How annoying I am has nothing to do with this?

Giga13

about 6 years

I thought people knew this already but I guess a lot of active people now haven't really seen Mike/Zovea/UniversalStudios/DreamworksStudios too much before so I'll post it again: Never respond seriously to Mike since he's out of touch and really doesn't know what he's talking about a lot of the time; a lot of the things he says are either false or just wrong/baseless/not thought out. He's also subtly rude at times and tries calling people out for no real reason other than to get a reaction or just because he's having a bad day, I guess. He's pretty evidently not a troll either; best left ignored most of the time

JonSnow

about 6 years

What upsets me the most are people like Mike who know so little yet talk so much. For someone who is a " T type " you sure lack the common sense to at least inform yourself before opening your mouth. Sorry but you've crossed some lines with your stupidness. You have no idea how much time i've spent trying to help her as a human being first, as an admin second and all was in vain because she is unreasonable. Countless of wasted hours, no matter how much i tried it was never a dialogue , only a monologue on both sides. She only cares about her viewpoint and she only cares about what bothers her and disregards any other opinion. I won't go into further details, the situation is even worse than it looks, just remember not to believe anything you read and if you decide to give someone the benefit of the doubt which ia noble, don't also forget to inform yourself and be objective, after all you re a thinker , right mate?

view

about 6 years

"""justified""" or not if it's screwing your health you really shouldn't come on here. block the site with like parental controls or something
charley has always been dumb as bricks tho tbh

justin

about 6 years

tldr

deletedabout 6 years

Mike says

Ally says

your alts are obvious so yes it's still unhealthy, and even if they weren't it's not okay to bypass a lobby camping restriction by playing on a hidden account

Doing a lot to justify trying to ban someone from a dead game.

i’m not talking about her ban, mtlve’s ban was absolutely deserved since she followed nevermaf to games after being told in no uncertain terms that they were not permitted to play together — i don’t think she’s even been reported since she came back that i’m aware of? so no they aren’t trying to ban her

deletedabout 6 years

Mike says

Ally says

an you picture how you say BSM makes you feel? (don't elaborate on it here due to your harassment warnings on both sides)

that's likely how you make charley feel. it's not fair to her to have to go through that when you upset her so much, just like no one would expect you to play with someone that upsets you that much.

How does this justify Charley playing the lobby camping/harassment card in the report section by herself (mod abuse) despite doing antogistic stuff towards Dreamer like leaving insulting reports/comments whenever she gets the chance? Posting to insult someone and deleting it is still harassment.

i don’t know what charley posted nor have i seen evidence of it so i’m not going to speak on it — if she’s going out of her way to insult mtlve when mtlve has expressed she feels harassed then yeah she’s in the wrong there

JM123

about 6 years

mtlve can you post a selfie in pics pls? i'd like to know if you look the way i imagine you

Mike

about 6 years

Ally says

your alts are obvious so yes it's still unhealthy, and even if they weren't it's not okay to bypass a lobby camping restriction by playing on a hidden account

Doing a lot to justify trying to ban someone from a dead game.

Mike

about 6 years

Ally says

an you picture how you say BSM makes you feel? (don't elaborate on it here due to your harassment warnings on both sides)

that's likely how you make charley feel. it's not fair to her to have to go through that when you upset her so much, just like no one would expect you to play with someone that upsets you that much.

How does this justify Charley playing the lobby camping/harassment card in the report section by herself (mod abuse) despite doing antogistic stuff towards Dreamer like leaving insulting reports/comments whenever she gets the chance? Posting to insult someone and deleting it is still harassment.

JM123

about 6 years

y'all need jesus

www.instagram.com/josemorenofs

deletedabout 6 years

your alts are obvious so yes it's still unhealthy, and even if they weren't it's not okay to bypass a lobby camping restriction by playing on a hidden account

i don't think you'll genuinely leave but if you do then good luck in your future endeavours

deletedabout 6 years

Ally says

it's not attacking you. you and charley together in a game is not a healthy environment. games are filling with enough ease that you don't need to play with her, so i don't really see the big deal, personally.

no i joined the only open table

i was going to play on alts that she did not know so how is that unhealthy?

i tried to play one last game but I am too upset even for that. i am out guys.

i hope that you do not all drown on this sinking ship

deletedabout 6 years

it's not attacking you. you and charley together in a game is not a healthy environment. games are filling with enough ease that you don't need to play with her, so i don't really see the big deal, personally.

deletedabout 6 years

Ally says

i don't think anyone is trying to attack you

and if you still feel horrible coming back and having to deal with her, then maybe you should just accept that it's for the best that you two avoid each other

I always felt attacked by mods so I attacked them, and we ended up in an endless cycle tbh.

I left and i was playing games with charley 2 days before i was banned at least. so why was a I magically not allowed to? to me this adds the appearance that they are trying to attack me again

deletedabout 6 years

i don't think anyone is trying to attack you

and if you still feel horrible coming back and having to deal with her, then maybe you should just accept that it's for the best that you two avoid each other

deletedabout 6 years

Ally says

can you picture how you say BSM makes you feel? (don't elaborate on it here due to your harassment warnings on both sides)

that's likely how you make charley feel. it's not fair to her to have to go through that when you upset her so much, just like no one would expect you to play with someone that upsets you that much.

I still doubt that she feels that way, as she always had no trouble talking in my threads, doing my reports and going out of her way to do other things to me.

even if it is the case, I actually feel horrible coming back here and having to deal with her again as a mod after our two years of history. I have been hurt by so many mods so badly over the years that I am like scared to death of them tbh and more specifically the hurt that they always will cause me.

I was told by denial and others that I need to like drop this past and try to move on from it and build better relationships with them. so I come back and the mods instantly go back to their old ways of starting drama with me when I did nothing wrong. I had no orders to stay away from charley and i was just playing.

Is it fair to ask me to like move on like this but still have all the mods trying to attack me again when I am minding my own business?

MonteCarrlo

about 6 years

we will see u in a week

deletedabout 6 years

dr3amer says

Ally says

dr3amer says

Lc was changed so that if one person asks you to leave their game, even if they think that you are just a bad player and they want to run, you have to leave or get a lc vio.

this isn't true at all, lc was changed to be stricter and only apply to people who literally cannot play together - you just don't understand

No it was not. like the current charley stuff is an example. We played fine right before my ban. now that i came back, she decided that she did not want to play with me again so I am banned from her games or i will get a lc vio again. https://epicmafia.com/game/6637678/review

anyone and everyone that says that do not want to play with me can like report me for lc now....

can you picture how you say BSM makes you feel? (don't elaborate on it here due to your harassment warnings on both sides)

that's likely how you make charley feel. it's not fair to her to have to go through that when you upset her so much, just like no one would expect you to play with someone that upsets you that much.