i got the point. no one wants me around at all so i have no right to play. cya.

you can just site ban all my accounts again please and lock this thread after

I still think the rules need changed period here, but it still does not change the fact that I should never be here

jonsnow i call you out on lc. read my thread in depth and comment on the actual content...u wanted to make a difference...

and this will be ignored by mods and admins, with the exception of them downvoting things I guess..

in this report, they joined several games of this player and insulted them. it got a harassment vio:
https://epicmafia.com/report/257755

If they had joined and said x sorry that I was mean before but I want to get along and x reported them for joining his game, it could get lc but not harassment.

so why is it that the punishments here for harassment are less severe than lobby camping when actually harassing someone should be punished more?

you can get 4 harassment vios before you are banned but 2 for lc.......

no comments on the content of my thread either like normal.

Question for the week:

you change lc rules so it is way easier to get a vio, as you do not need to have a harassment vio to get it or something that severe. Since we can get the vios like 10x faster, why keep the punishment the same as before?

the vio needs to be either shorter and/or require several more vios to get a ban. like the punishment for harassment vios should be more severe that these vios by the way that you are like now judging lc...

Justin says

dr3amer says

also lucid just needs to fix it so you can delete accounts with trophies

ive delete an account with trophies and so have many before its not a glitch... @ look at any old round and see the trophy winner is `deleted` or not shown at all

I deleted townyy1 before like a year before I started using it again, but like nothing happened to it. Not sure if they changed it, but I assume that you still cant delete accounts with trophies

dr3amer says

also lucid just needs to fix it so you can delete accounts with trophies

ive delete an account with trophies and so have many before its not a glitch... @ look at any old round and see the trophy winner is `deleted` or not shown at all

How many times u gonna say bye and think ppl will believe u

anyways I am out. I doubt anyone will even look at what I say, but at least I tried

:shotgun: em

so in summary the lc punishment does not match the crime. like why is this vio given in place of harassment and without a harass vio or reasons to keep people apart at times? It should be a last resort, as the punishment is so long for this.

one of the following should be done:
1. keep the punishment but go back to the rules from 2 years ago, where they require a harass vio to get this

2. keep your new rules watered down rules, but change the punishment to fit this. I would suggest a 3 month vio at most, as even a month can be be enough time for people to fix their relationship. I would also increase it to like 4-5 vios for a ban. mods have been giving vios for like even 1 slip up where the person did not know the alt. say a person is banned from playing with 5 people. this means they have to keep track of possibly 25+ accounts and this creates accidents, which they still vio...

LOL

www.instagram.com/josemorenofs

4. The punishment length and number are not adequate to how the rules are enforced now. The punishment is left over from before when you needed a harsh vio to keep you apart and multiple games where you joined and did not listen to leave. At this time it was given rarely, so it was difficult to get more than 1 vio.

As the rules were changed to not require multiple games and a prior severe vio, this vio is given out more now. It can be given without a clear warning from mods that 2 people need to stay away from each other. Additionally, anyone can basically demand that you not play with them in a game and you can get a vio for this. You can have like 10+ of these verbal warnings from people, and if you accidently join one game of these 10 people at times in red or orange hearts, you can get a vio.

2 vios is a ban and these vios last 6 months. These were fine when they were not given regularly, but now they are given a lot.

Currently my ban is up, but I still have 2 Lc vios for 3 more months now, so if I accidently joined a game with one person that did not want to play with me, I can risk getting a vio and banned for 3 months again. I will have 100s that do not want to play with me at all, so its just a matter of time before I was to even accidently join and get a vio and 3 month ban again.

2. Anyone can get a ban to avoid someone, even if only because they do not like their play style. It does not require a vio anymore and it does not require multiple games. I was told to not play with become by charley, but become never even asked in the game or elsewhere to not play with them. I was banned last week from playing with charley because i annoy her.

https://epicmafia.com/report/242859


3. Tables are empty and few, so we can’t really ban people now because you do not like them.

LC today and its problems:
1. It lacks requirements for a proper warning before you get the vio: my lc1 vio was a good example of this. Feenikss did have a harassment vio 5-6 months before, but the only warning that we had based on this was from 4 months earlier, before he was banned for 3 months. Then shoopie, feenikss and I agreed that we would not play together or feenikss harassment vio was getting removed, but we were like never told we cant do it or it would be lc.



4months later, feenikss was unbanned and I joined his game but was not aware of his alt. He reported me. There was one more game where we were not sure who joined first and he reported me. Finally I joined an empty table to try to make amends with him.
So like all of these games were within a few days of each other and all reports were in pending/appeals. The mods understanding the reports did not understand shoopie agreement with us, and they thought that we were not to be in games at all. While the warning report was being appealed to correct the mod about what shoopie instructed, this warning was then used to give a vio for the 3rd game.
Shoopie said at that time that the warning for the LC vio was given by charley, in the report still being appealed when the vio was given. Charley said it was given by shoopie 4 months before, but he denied then that his report warned us to stay away from each other, as that was never our agreement at all.
The major problem here was that the warning was not clear at that time, as we thought that it was shoopie’s agreement that we stay out or the vio gets deleted. I was told like less than 24 hrs before that we could not play together, but the mod misunderstood the agreement from 4 months before. Additionally the report that charley used for a warning was four months old and Feenikss had been banned for 3 months so I even had forgotten the agreement with shoopie and all of feenikss accounts

old rules: Two years ago a LC vio required both a prior harassment/gt type vio by the player joining and records of them joining multiple games to antogonize the person. As an example, DangeloD would join my games and spam that I was a gt alt and we would tell them to stay out of the game and remake for like 8x but they would keep joining to spam this. The mods would not give her a harassment vio at my request, so I could never get the LC vio. They would also never vio this without multiple screenshots with multiple warnings on top of having the prior vio.

Shows I asked them to leave/stop saying what they said and remade the games: https://imgur.com/a/wCjs6
shows abuse again: https://imgur.com/a/pxrYB
Thread on this: https://epicmafia.com/topic/84822

also lucid just needs to fix it so you can delete accounts with trophies