over 6 years

Greetings, ladies and gentlemen.

It is I -- the grand Jamal Tiberius Marley here to discuss some things with the community.

Speaking of community.. User Shoopie decided that it was a bright idea to come to our great Sandbox lobby and pretend that she is a member of this community -- she is not.

You know who is a member of this community? Jamal Tiberius Marley.

The same Jamal Tiberius Marley who has been here for years, the same who has dedicated time and energy into improving this lobby.

Shoopie dared call into question my ability to run the lobby yet her ignorance was made apparent during this period of poor decision making.

I have provided Sandbox with hundreds of poll suggestions in order to regularly engage the community, you may ask user Bebop to attest to the overwhelming amount of ideas I had for said polls.

I have provided a reason for users to come to this lobby as my presence was irresistible. Whenever I am out of hibernation, everyone always pays attention to me. Everyone wants to be keeping up with Jamal Marley. I give people a reason to log in every day.

I have been a member of this community who does not just post on the forums, who does not simply sit in the chatbox all day, I also play games and have played games since my arrival on this site. I participate in all facets of this lobby -- I am so well-rounded.

My work also expands to the greater website as I was a part of the Role Patrol who created many roles that were released in the last wave of roles and there are still plenty of unreleased roles that I have made and contributed to: https://epicmafia.com/topic/81195 https://epicmafia.com/role/15711 https://epicmafia.com/role/15712 https://epicmafia.com/role/15713

I have been saying since my return from hibernation that this lobby was stolen from me and this is the truth. Allow me to revive my State of Sandbox address after the theft occurred: https://epicmafia.com/topic/82921

I laid out my ideas for the community, some obviously still in development as I had little notice before taking over the lobby, yet the ideas were there nonetheless and I was ready to start rolling out changes. At the end of the thread I gave my support to user Dooze in the event that people did not support me -- yet the people did support me. I had my hopes that user Dooze would implement some grand changes to revive what was already a decaying community, yet she did no such thing.

My ideas are not complex, I am not likely not the first one to think of them, yet I was evidently the only one who had the drive and initiative to desire a change and push for a better community.

If you do not wish to click the State of the Sandbox address, then here are some of the unedited ideas from the thread:

I did not intend to rule alone or with just the moderators I choose, I was not interested in a clique ruling the lobby like we are going to have with an owner like Merlot and like we had with Bebop. This secretive clique may be great for those who Merlot and Bebop are looking out for (themselves, other site moderators), but it is not good for the people. I intended to rule with transparency -- true transparency. I wanted the people of Sandbox to help make decisions and I intended to start up open forums to hear what you had to say on issues such as what the role of the lobby moderator should be since they do not do much (I will talk about this more later on in this thread) and if the moderators and I could not come to a decision about what to do with controversial issues like certain users posting content in the lobby chat, then we'd create an open forum allowing the people to have their say on the issue.

The role of the moderators would drastically change, making them more useful within the lobby as I have seen many people say that moderators just aren't needed in Sandbox, here are the descriptions of the roles that I created with the help of some of my friends which were set to be included in the moderator applications yesterday before the lobby was stolen from me:

Position: Forum Moderator Description: The forum moderator is the peace keeper of the forums. Their responsibilities include sticking the most relevant threads to the lobby wall, moving topics to their appropriate location, judging and enforcing rules violations in forums, and creating topics of interest. You should apply if: You are a very active user. You enjoy reading TheLastProphet’s and MeetTerry’s posts. You are organized.

Position: Games Moderator Description: The Games Moderator will have several responsibilities all of which include keeping the community having fun. The Games mod will be in charge of choosing the stickied setups, hosting setups and introducing new ones, hosting forum games or alternative games outside of sandbox or promoting games others are hosting. You should apply if: You are a very active user. You are creative. You are a good host. You enjoy the mafia based aspect of this mafia simulator site.

Position: Enforcer Moderator Description: The Enforcer Moderator will be the strong arm of the law. They must enforce the rules and will make no leeway for personal relationships. While all mods enforce the rules, the Enforcer Mod will be the primary mod to handle violations, give out punishment, police the lobby wall and lobby chat, and serve anyone who feels their experience in sandbox is being affected by other users. You should apply if: You are a very active user. You consider yourself tempered and level-headed. You are neither an SJW nor a racist. You’re not going to go on a banning spree.

Position: Community Moderator Description: The Community Mod will come up with the lobby announcements. They can keep the community up to date with events users are hosting such as: plugdj, discord, jackbox and movie nights. They will also lead design based aspects of sandbox including choosing the lobby banner, the lobby background, and the lobby polls. You should apply if: You are a very active user. You don’t need to be an artist but should have artistic taste. You communicate well with others and are up to date on social happenings.

We would put great empashize on having more community-orientented games like Dooze's Sandbox Assassin and Amelio's Sandbox Big Brother, SupBros' large games, or Plissken's unique events. We would create a fun lobby where we constantly have events being run and promote these events well rather than leaving the lobby stagnant as I talked about earlier and just having the same setup being hosted every single day.

I had great interest in running a lobby with an enforced set of rules, yet lenient when it needs to be. I had great interest I running the lobby with a policy in which everyone can play in Sandbox, but those who constantly interfere with the functioning of the lobby will be barred from playing here, a fair chance policy. This policy would also state that the moderators and even the owner themselves could not hold grudges and act due to that fact and this would include a fair chance when choosing moderators as well. With the fair chance policy, the moderators must live up to the rule as well and will be held to the highest of standards. In the event we had a moderator abusing their powers like error did, they would be removed from their position because of their interference with the functioning of the lobby. The main rules I believe need to be enforced are those that protect the people from legitimately feeling unsafe within the lobby. The people doxing users, threatening to reveal someone's personal information, and effectively chasing out our active userbase should not be allowed in this lobby -- and Bebop & friends are no stranger to doing this.

I do not claim my ideas to be perfect, yet they were ideas and I had the drive to implement them before the robbery, I do believe that we need an owner who cares enough to TRY to do something positive with this lobby.

Do you understand now?
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over 6 years
Well , I have nothing to say to that. Well Mr. Marley, I'll think of placing my vote on you. But quite frankly, I can't help but hold a grudge considering you turned games into literal at one point (for those really not interested in your church activities - ie. when you kept stating that someone was maf - even though they were not-, and your little followers followed along- no offence but that was annoying af(my opinion)) If, however, you have amended your ways in terms of being hella annoying during games I could definitely place a vote on you. Also how tf is there eleven upvotes, yet only two people liked it...??
over 6 years
[quote=JamalMarley]User HuskyJiminie,

I enjoy dooze, she seems like a fine young lass, and she has done a fine job in owning the lobby -- yet the owner should do more than just own the lobby. The owner should take the initiative to build a community and create an atmosphere that makes users want to come back -- an engaging community. User dooze has done nothing to further this community and that is why I believe we need an owner with the drive to further this lobby in its darkest hour.

Well , I have nothing to say to that. Well Mr. Marley, I'll think of placing my vote on you. But quite frankly, I can't help but hold a grudge considering you turned games into literal at one point (for those really not interested in your church activities - ie. when you kept stating that someone was maf - even though they were not-, and your little followers followed along- no offence but that was annoying af(my opinion)) If, however, you have amended your ways in terms of being hella annoying during games I could definitely place a vote on you. Also how tf is there eleven upvotes, yet only two people liked it...??
over 6 years

BeepBeepLettuce says

Who names someone Tiberius?

That sounds gay asf in 2018

Like Thaddeus or Buford or Todd


If that is your takeaway from this thread then it seems that you have nothing to contribute.
over 6 years
Who names someone Tiberius?

That sounds gay asf in 2018

Like Thaddeus or Buford or Todd
over 6 years

Shoopie says

Ok what's your stance on Plissken?


He was a bully and this is why he was excommunicated from the Holy Church of Jamal and banished from this lobby. I wrote a post exposing him for his misdeeds when his poor behaviour was brought to my attention.
over 6 years
Ok what's your stance on Plissken?
over 6 years
I want to keep up with Jamal Marley, see His posts every day! All hail the Lord!
over 6 years

4thNightFacinorous says

To be honest, Jamal could probably do a better job than the mods at the moment.


Thank you for your support, user 4thNightFacinorous.
over 6 years
User HuskyJiminie,

I enjoy dooze, she seems like a fine young lass, and she has done a fine job in owning the lobby -- yet the owner should do more than just own the lobby. The owner should take the initiative to build a community and create an atmosphere that makes users want to come back -- an engaging community. User dooze has done nothing to further this community and that is why I believe we need an owner with the drive to further this lobby in its darkest hour.

This lobby was stolen from me and anyone who was around at the time knows that, you can ask Bebop, eris, and winnie who conspired against me to have Edark intervene to take the lobby from me and they will all admit what happened because user Whitepimp007 leaked the moderator logs, this is what user Shoopie was speaking of earlier. I owned the lobby one day and then the next I didn't and I certainly did not give it away. What do you call this if not stealing?

I do not have a cult, I have a group of likeminded individuals who 1) wish to eradicate toxicity in this lobby and 2) wish to revive the lobby. I have put forward plans to better this lobby and this website, I have taken the time and I have shown the initiative to help all of you yet you would rather keep the lobby stagnant by having an unmotivated owner own the lobby? Why is this? Because of a grudge you have against me? Very sad.
over 6 years
To be honest, Jamal could probably do a better job than the mods at the moment.
over 6 years

JamalMarley says


HuskyJiminie says

Your ideas are okay, but there's a few issues, so I will not be voting for you


As stated in the thread, my ideas were never perfected and they certainly were not some revolutionary ideas. The purpose of this thread was to show that I had the initiative and I cared enough to make some changes to better this lobby 15 months ago when this lobby was stolen from me and that the owners that have succeeded me have unfortunately done nothing for the community. My ideas, regardless of how good or bad you view them, are ideas nonetheless and I can say with certainty that it is much better to have ideas and a plan in motion to implement them rather than having an owner who has no drive to better this lobby and would rather just sit around and watch it die.


Its not your ideas that I find bad, I know they are ideas that can definitely be implemented once refined and looked into in depth. It's your attitude that puts me off, in terms of how you view the current owner. It's all in fair play, and frankly I don't believe the lobby was stolen (you got solid proof?). Also, my other main concern is you putting your cult before the lobby. Unless you have a written contract ready or smth like this, stating the information I have outlined above, and more, I'm pretty sure my vote would not be going to you.
over 6 years
In the first page of this thread, I discuss some more of the current issues rather than proving that I currently have and have had in the past the initiative to better this lobby for all of you.

Please read and feel free to discuss before exposing yourself as ignorant by saying it is too little too late for the ideas I copied and pasted from my thread from 15 months ago.
over 6 years

HuskyJiminie says

Your ideas are okay, but there's a few issues, so I will not be voting for you


As stated in the thread, my ideas were never perfected and they certainly were not some revolutionary ideas. The purpose of this thread was to show that I had the initiative and I cared enough to make some changes to better this lobby 15 months ago when this lobby was stolen from me and that the owners that have succeeded me have unfortunately done nothing for the community. My ideas, regardless of how good or bad you view them, are ideas nonetheless and I can say with certainty that it is much better to have ideas and a plan in motion to implement them rather than having an owner who has no drive to better this lobby and would rather just sit around and watch it die.
over 6 years
Once again, these ideas came straight from the thread I created 15 months ago after this lobby was stolen from me. Of course there are different issues now, but the main issue stays the same, and it is not population -- it is the community.

Like I discussed on page one of this thread, if we all brought a friend to join EpicMafia and they started to play here in Sandbox, we'd have a rise in activity temporarily, but what next? They play the same setup over and over again, they get bullied by the toxic users in the lobby, and they decide it is not worth it and that they'd much rather go to Town of Salem to play their mafia simulator game. It is a cycle that repeats itself because of this community does not engage anyone. These ideas from 15 months ago would have worked to rebuild the already decaying community from 15 months ago.

Right now what we need to do is rebuild the community that we have with the users that are still here. Bringing this community together and making it a positive environment to be in would allow us to build upon the community. If we do not have a basis for our community, then we cannot expect people to stick around, even if we did all bring a friend.

If you are attacking my ideas then it is clear to me that you did not read this thread -- very embarrassing. My ability to run the lobby was called into question and I am showing in this thread why I have been a member of the community and why I have the initiative and why I care enough to help this lobby.
over 6 years
your thumb is bigger than your pinky
over 6 years
my best friend's wedding is a pretty good movie jamal have you seen that one
over 6 years
The problem isn't moderation, the problem is population. I fail to see how having 5 more mods is going to fix this glaring issue. Nobody wants 5 additional idiots breathing down our necks. The current level of moderation in sandbox is absolutely fine. There just aren't enough players to accomplish anything meaningful. Your ideas would perhaps have had more purchase 2 years ago, but as is they make little sense. Too little too late for this song and dance. Lucid blew it. The end.
over 6 years
Your ideas are okay, but there's a few issues, so I will not be voting for you
over 6 years
man, without the church preaching tone and the greatness exaggerations that remind me of trump? what you're bringing to the table is a solid outline of what's killing the game and the lobby in particular, plans for at least trying to address those things, and a demonstrated determination to keep going even when people are naysaying you. i vote for giving you a shot.
over 6 years

dooze says

Guys I'm sorry I failed you as an owner

Jamal is back :(


You should be apologizing for your lack of effort to better the community, not for me coming back to ensure that this community survives.
over 6 years
Guys I'm sorry I failed you as an owner

Jamal is back :(
over 6 years

HuskyJiminie says

That's too long, I can't be bothered to read it. Summarise please.


Certainly.

Sandbox as well as EpicMafia are clearly having issues and many people are ready to lay down and die yet that need not happen. We can experience The Revival.

How do we do this? For Sandbox, we rebuild the community with those of us that are left. If we all bring a friend here to play, they'll play the same setup everyday and get bored and leave like others have done -- there is nothing worthwhile here for them to do. The current Sandbox administration has proven to be lacklustre and does not have the initiative to try to build a community here. We need an owner who is ready, willing, and able to take the initiative to rebuild this community. In this post I have outlined simple ideas to make this lobby more engaging, the same ideas I publicly released 15 months ago when the lobby was stolen from me. I gave my support to dooze in hopes that she would do something positive for the community but she has not done anything to save this community.

You should take the time to read my post for the details.
over 6 years
That's too long, I can't be bothered to read it. Summarise please.
over 6 years
If you voted that you do not understand, then please enlighten me -- let us have a discussion.
over 6 years
Delightful! Thank you.