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deletedover 6 years

https://epicmafia.com/report/249524

this verdict is again a joke. how do the mods really have no idea what trolling is?

trolling vios require the trolling to make the game unplayable. this game was very playable, and town won. the clear tr me for my trolling/helping town mix.

granted i do troll some, but i troll with a purpose beyond my own enjoyment. 1. now if i dont troll, i get sr. i am always scummy town, but i am less this way when i troll it seems. now they think i am pr/mafia if i dont do it so i have to literally troll every game now or get lynched 2. i fake claim a lot but i do this to save the prs. certain prs have to out, but if the do not, the other prs freak out and our easy to spot. my fake claim allows the prs to hide and serves to get the real prs to out. yeah this all can annoy some people but there is a method to my madness

regardless, i dont ever troll to make the game unplayable. i was running on that account even, so why would i here??????????????????????????

this verdict is bs again...

deletedover 6 years

Ally says

10:33 arisuu
oh i retract
10:43 arisuu
no wait
arisuu
thats not right
arisuu
im caroler

she was genuinely confused as to whether or not you were a legit cc or trying to rs, as evidenced by the fact that she voted you afterwards. you're trying to rs, not confuse her and make it unplayable because she thinks that you're ccing her.

16:13 was AFTER the line i just mentioned where you straight up tell her you're trying to rs.


attempting a rs is not trolling period. it is strategy. you guys really want to go here that you cant rs?
deletedover 6 years

Ally says

i'm not accusing you of throwing and it has nothing to do with your run, i'm accusing you of trolling and you said yourself that trolling was part of your strategy. i'm telling you that trolling is not something you can use as strategy.

i wasn't saying you were cheating lol. i was saying that you can't break the rules as strategy. i can't ogi in a game and then say it was my strategy. just like you can't troll a game and say it was strategy, bc at the end of the day it's still trolling and you're making the game unplayable even if you think you aren't.


trolling by the standard of the rules requires you to disrupt the game. fake claiming is not trolling. you would have arguement against me as trolling here i think if i would have fake claimed like i did the whole game but not have serious moments like outing fosses and trying to stop lynches. a good example of trolling was if i would talk in german the whole game. use a color that you cant read. talk in pig latin the whole game. talk with upside down font the whole game. lead on the sheriff the whole game and pretend to not see the claims.

trolling part of the game briefly when it does not have significant influence on the game, is not worthy of a trolling violation.

i mean you should really look at some games of edark and gerry. they were ex mods/admins and they literally troll the whole game, even more so than i do typically, but like me they can play seriously too and dont disrupt the game.
deletedover 6 years
10:33 arisuu
oh i retract
10:43 arisuu
no wait
arisuu
thats not right
arisuu
im caroler

she was genuinely confused as to whether or not you were a legit cc or trying to rs, as evidenced by the fact that she voted you afterwards. you're trying to rs, not confuse her and make it unplayable because she thinks that you're ccing her.

16:13 was AFTER the line i just mentioned where you straight up tell her you're trying to rs.
deletedover 6 years
i'm not accusing you of throwing and it has nothing to do with your run, i'm accusing you of trolling and you said yourself that trolling was part of your strategy. i'm telling you that trolling is not something you can use as strategy.

i wasn't saying you were cheating lol. i was saying that you can't break the rules as strategy. i can't ogi in a game and then say it was my strategy. just like you can't troll a game and say it was strategy, bc at the end of the day it's still trolling and you're making the game unplayable even if you think you aren't.
deletedover 6 years

Ally says

the caroler repeatedly hardclaimed caroler. it's not her fault that you insisted on a rs when she was clearly not down for it and had her vote on you for a majority of the day, until you retracted and said this:

15:57 Ra1nyDay@arisuu
dude i was clearly trying to rs with you all game
16:04 Ra1nyDay@arisuu
can you lead on mafia


10:33
16:13
deletedover 6 years

Ally says

based on your earlier posts in the thread, i don't think you get that you can troll and still be playing to win. you do disrupt the game through your actions/communications and antagonize other players; employing trolling as a strategy doesn't make it okay. saying "it's how i try to win games" doesn't make it okay. for a more extreme example, someone cheating can't say "i was doing it to try to win" to excuse it. someone using blatant ogi can't say "ogi is my strategy to win games"; that's still breaking the rules. it's the same thing with trolling.


i was running on that account. why would i do anything to compromise that? the bottom line is that the rules are defined and i did not break them here. an attempted rs is not trolling....

you saying that i am like trolling to cheat here or something now? this analogy is bad
deletedover 6 years
the caroler repeatedly hardclaimed caroler. it's not her fault that you insisted on a rs when she was clearly not down for it and had her vote on you for a majority of the day, until you retracted and said this:

15:57 Ra1nyDay@arisuu
dude i was clearly trying to rs with you all game
16:04 Ra1nyDay@arisuu
can you lead on mafia
deletedover 6 years

Ally says

girl the sheriff literally told everyone to bw you until you finally retracted, you weren't just confusing mafia, you made things difficult for town too. Haoki repeatedly expressed his aggravation.


then why not vio the caroler for rsing with me too? he was frustrated because her and i both kept claiming against each other and retracting. we did confuse him and mafia equally, but that was on both of us. he also was pretty sure that we were both town, or he would have kept the lynch on me

attempting a rs is not trolling. sometimes it does not matter what town thinks/knows you are, as long as its town and you help the town
deletedover 6 years
based on your earlier posts in the thread, i don't think you get that you can troll and still be playing to win. you do disrupt the game through your actions/communications and antagonize other players; employing trolling as a strategy doesn't make it okay. saying "it's how i try to win games" doesn't make it okay. for a more extreme example, someone cheating can't say "i was doing it to try to win" to excuse it. someone using blatant ogi can't say "ogi is my strategy to win games"; that's still breaking the rules. it's the same thing with trolling.
deletedover 6 years
girl the sheriff literally told everyone to bw you until you finally retracted, you weren't just confusing mafia, you made things difficult for town too. Haoki repeatedly expressed his aggravation.
deletedover 6 years

Ally says

constructive feedback: stop fakeclaiming so often it's really not helpful

you do make games unplayable, you do antagonize players and disrupt gameplay by going out of your way to claim roles that aren't yours repeatedly when it's not beneficial at all to town, nothing you did there helped town win, just because town won doesn't mean your trolling helped in any way shape or form and you need to stop acting like that in games


how did my fake claiming hurt town there?

it confused mafia about who was caroler but that was it.
deletedover 6 years
constructive feedback: stop fakeclaiming so often it's really not helpful

you do make games unplayable, you do antagonize players and disrupt gameplay by going out of your way to claim roles that aren't yours repeatedly when it's not beneficial at all to town, nothing you did there helped town win, just because town won doesn't mean your trolling helped in any way shape or form and you need to stop acting like that in games
deletedover 6 years
i wanted the trolling sheriff to stop hiding and just shoot you before they hipfired the caroler :(

thought if i pretended to shoot you that maybe it would rub off on them and they would shoot the naked mafia and not the hiding caroler!!!!
deletedover 6 years

Ally says

04:58 Ra1nyDay@Ally
i always wanted to shoot you


forgot you were in that game :)

i was uncced sheriff then and i kept saying bang bang bang....shoot the naked mafia or ally :)
deletedover 6 years
"Antagonizing other players, disrupting gameplay through actions or communications, or otherwise playing to get negative reactions from other players."

i did not antagonize other players

i did not disrupt the game play or they would have all told me to stop and we would not have won so fast

i did not play to get negative reactions

i played this whole game to give a town win, so how did i break this rule??????? give me constructive feedback...
deletedover 6 years
04:58 Ra1nyDay@Ally
i always wanted to shoot you
deletedover 6 years
i refuse to weigh in on reports involving you im just here to say hi
deletedover 6 years

Ally says

commenting


explain your thoughts on this report
deletedover 6 years
commenting
deletedover 6 years
jm i call you out now to explain how i interrupted this game. mods comment now.

you all know the rules and trolling requires the game to be interrupted by the trolling...
deletedover 6 years
the funny thing about this game, if you really read it, it was mostly mafia complaining about my trolling.

on the last day the caroler and i were trying to rs, and we both confused the sheriff some. she would let me rs and then try to take it back and then give me it again. i was trying to get her to completely retract so she could get to the final day, but it did not work the best. i think the sheriff was mad at both of us for this to some extent as he was not sure if we were both town rsing or seriously ccing. i tried to make it obvious to both of them it was a rs. it worked out in the end though as he lynched mafia

at that time it was like only the mafia that was really mad about the rsing as he was very confused on who was caroler lol
deletedover 6 years

lacey says

mtlve have you ever tried just not claiming every role you can think of in every game


i actually tried to stop trolling some games a few months ago when everyone was mad at me, but it really backfired. i actually wanted to stop trolling entirely. people said i was not acting normal and tunneled me/killed me more often as pr
deletedover 6 years
mtlve have you ever tried just not claiming every role you can think of in every game
deletedover 6 years
gametossers get the cops at their door
over 6 years
contractually obligated to play to win every game