Epicmafia

burn baby burn

deletedover 6 years

this verdict is again a joke. how do the mods really have no idea what trolling is?

trolling vios require the trolling to make the game unplayable. this game was very playable, and town won. the clear tr me for my trolling/helping town mix.

granted i do troll some, but i troll with a purpose beyond my own enjoyment. 1. now if i dont troll, i get sr. i am always scummy town, but i am less this way when i troll it seems. now they think i am pr/mafia if i dont do it so i have to literally troll every game now or get lynched 2. i fake claim a lot but i do this to save the prs. certain prs have to out, but if the do not, the other prs freak out and our easy to spot. my fake claim allows the prs to hide and serves to get the real prs to out. yeah this all can annoy some people but there is a method to my madness

regardless, i dont ever troll to make the game unplayable. i was running on that account even, so why would i here??????????????????????????

this verdict is bs again...

deletedover 6 years

Ally says

I left the game after I was lynched so no I wouldn't have please stop using my name as a way to get out of the vio

then why not go back and report me later? we all know that you dont like me for some reason

deletedover 6 years

I left the game after I was lynched so no I wouldn't have please stop using my name as a way to get out of the vio

deletedover 6 years

blacksnakemoan says

popping back in to say that granny reported you and she was a blue

Justin a former mod and ally a current mod were also both in my game, but neither of them bothered to report me for trolling. If i was really trolling, dont you think that they would report me? justin has a history of like reporting me for everything even. both of them know the rules and would have reported me if i trolled to the extent of breaking the rules

deletedover 6 years

blacksnakemoan says

popping back in to say that granny reported you and she was a blue

granny has reported like 8 people for trolling in the last 8 days and go 2 vios. she reports everyone for fake claims or any play they do not like.

deletedover 6 years

dr3amer says

ally was in this game and she agreed that i trolled, but she also agreed that it was not violation worthy as it did not affect the game/annoy people!

this is NOT what i said, i specifically said that it DOES annoy people and makes the game unplayable, i just said that you troll harder in every other game so this looks tame in comparison

blacksnakemoan

over 6 years

popping back in to say that granny reported you and she was a blue

deletedover 6 years

denial says

yes, my point being that just because the actual pr doesnt agree to roleswap with you doesn't mean it might not confuse mafia on who to kill

the problem lies with how effective it is: it does not seem like it is doing any good for you recently because all thats happening is you're pissing clears off and they're reporting you

i did not p1ss off the clears. the sheriff tr me. mafia reported me because i made their job harder, which is my job

denial

over 6 years

yes, my point being that just because the actual pr doesnt agree to roleswap with you doesn't mean it might not confuse mafia on who to kill

the problem lies with how effective it is: it does not seem like it is doing any good for you recently because all thats happening is you're pissing clears off and they're reporting you

deletedover 6 years

also i have to say that most of my kudos are even from this very thing

deletedover 6 years

denial says

also, probably should add that this as well

i dont think ive EVER seen anybody actually be okay with mtive trying to roleswap them in the manner she did this game, because like pranay said, it can be used as a maf way to try to setup a cc to win at another day/etc

but that doesn't necessarily mean it doesnt confuse maf on who to kill

i mean at some point you should probably understand after 20 times that it never works in your favor though and phase it out of your gameplay

this is false, this strategy often works for me, even rs that you think were bad have resulted in my death.

if the pr can have a semi-strong tr on you, its okay with a little faith. i could have died, as the mafia was very confused. i think that he believed me as he was more focused on asking if i was actually the caroler.

all the caroler would have to do the next day if we were both alive and she allowed the rs was to ask why i was still alive as the caroler and they can win with a good clear..... our clear that day was pretty good and she would have won that and she was willing to risk it

deletedover 6 years

denial says

havent read most of this thread but wanted to clear something up:

if i say "yes, i trolled this game"

this is not an admission of "i trolled enough to be given a trolling violation"

for example, if someone reports me for trolling and claiming a role that wasnt in the game

and in the report i say "uhh, yes i trolled and claimed celebrity, sorry"

that is not admission of guilt of deserving a trolling vio if the actual content of the game was one line being a joke or something

so, mtive admitting to trolling in the report doesn't mean that what she did violated the trolling rules or that the trolling was purely malicious in trying to antagonize players blah blah

thanks this is exactly what i was saying. i admitted to fake claiming this game and basically just having fun with minor trolling. like often i used to troll claiming the town cat and meowing and * for fun.

i argued from the first report though that i did not troll to the extent of a trolling vio, as i did not here. i strategically tried to help town win, while also having some fun in the process.... i explained my strategy in depth for everything i did on like the first page of this thread so i will not say it again.

denial

over 6 years

also, probably should add that this as well

i dont think ive EVER seen anybody actually be okay with mtive trying to roleswap them in the manner she did this game, because like pranay said, it can be used as a maf way to try to setup a cc to win at another day/etc

but that doesn't necessarily mean it doesnt confuse maf on who to kill

i mean at some point you should probably understand after 20 times that it never works in your favor though and phase it out of your gameplay

deletedover 6 years

blacksnakemoan says

dr3amer says

"Antagonizing other players, disrupting gameplay through actions or communications, or otherwise playing to get negative reactions from other players."

again how did i break this rule?

Well people report you because they're antagonised.

The gameplay is disrupted because you claim multiple roles and confuse the town as they try to sort out who is mafia and who is town.

You know you get negative reactions but you keep on doing it.

So here's my final word on this: you got the trolling vio because you purposely played in a way that made it harder for your team (the town) to do their job.

The vio stands, goodbye.

does the hooker claim sheriff, oracle, caroler? does mafia in general? i troll more like this as town, and i get blue read for this very reason. my trolling makes their job easier. town does not need to know who the caroler is at the mislynch, because then mafia know this. my fake claiming also gets the hidden prs to out because they have to cc me there. ...

denial

over 6 years

havent read most of this thread but wanted to clear something up:

if i say "yes, i trolled this game"

this is not an admission of "i trolled enough to be given a trolling violation"

for example, if someone reports me for trolling and claiming a role that wasnt in the game

and in the report i say "uhh, yes i trolled and claimed celebrity, sorry"

that is not admission of guilt of deserving a trolling vio if the actual content of the game was one line being a joke or something

so, mtive admitting to trolling in the report doesn't mean that what she did violated the trolling rules or that the trolling was purely malicious in trying to antagonize players blah blah

blacksnakemoan

over 6 years

dr3amer says

"Antagonizing other players, disrupting gameplay through actions or communications, or otherwise playing to get negative reactions from other players."

again how did i break this rule?

Well people report you because they're antagonised.

The gameplay is disrupted because you claim multiple roles and confuse the town as they try to sort out who is mafia and who is town.

You know you get negative reactions but you keep on doing it.

So here's my final word on this: you got the trolling vio because you purposely played in a way that made it harder for your team (the town) to do their job.

The vio stands, goodbye.

deletedover 6 years

"Antagonizing other players, disrupting gameplay through actions or communications, or otherwise playing to get negative reactions from other players."

again how did i break this rule?

deletedover 6 years

mandevian says

You implied you were caroler and claimed blue in my game. Then voted me when i was clear. And expected not to be lynched.

if i was hooker or mafia, would i have voted you the clear? i voted you so you would figure out that i was blue and okay with you lynching me. i wanted you to blue read me and i did what i could to make you do this

deletedover 6 years

mandevian says

When you force someone to roleswap and they don't want to and they see it as a threat to their authority as clear on the game, you are supposed to back off or get lynched. The clear will think you are mafia.

And here it is clear that you just wanted your way instead of winning the game.

And some braindead people will say i also fake claim. But it is always for a purpose and never a forced roleawap to the point where someone wants to lynch me just for fake ccing them. Unless i think the other claim is mafia, there is no reason to fake claim.

You act like a moron and impose your fake claims without any positive impact. Sometimes luckily there is a positive impact. People want to lynch you because you could be mafia claiming their role. If you confuse the town (you can tell this when they explicity point it out) it doesnt help.

the caroler retracted their caroler came twice and was not really trying to lynch me. they even retracted again to save me. it was a clear rs. we still had 2 joking caroler claims but lynched in blues for a reason

deletedover 6 years

blacksnakemoan says

hey if you're gonna post stupid bullshït i'm gonna downvote it lmao

you've been told a million times how you trolled AND you admitted to doing it

you don't like me but don't treat me like i'm a fᴜcking idiot

my definition of trolling on this site is saying and doing things that are fake. like me claiming to be living in michigan is trolling people, as i have no ties at all to there. vilden claiming to be a girl is trolling.

trolling vios is doing what i mentioned above to the extreme that it interferes with the game/makes it unplayable

while i troll at a minor level, i do not disrupt the game. i was running on this account even, so why would i jeopardize my run? yes i will admit to my minor trolling but it does not deserve the harsh vio you gave it. the rules do not demand that you do not troll at all. they demand that you dont do it in a way that people cant play the game

mandevian

over 6 years

You implied you were caroler and claimed blue in my game. Then voted me when i was clear. And expected not to be lynched.

mandevian

over 6 years

Trolling is not a strategy. Pretending to troll to get reactions sometimes helps. You characterize your play as trolling and say it helps and thus shouldn't be viod. Fuk off.

mandevian

over 6 years

When you force someone to roleswap and they don't want to and they see it as a threat to their authority as clear on the game, you are supposed to back off or get lynched. The clear will think you are mafia.

And here it is clear that you just wanted your way instead of winning the game.

And some braindead people will say i also fake claim. But it is always for a purpose and never a forced roleawap to the point where someone wants to lynch me just for fake ccing them. Unless i think the other claim is mafia, there is no reason to fake claim.

You act like a moron and impose your fake claims without any positive impact. Sometimes luckily there is a positive impact. People want to lynch you because you could be mafia claiming their role. If you confuse the town (you can tell this when they explicity point it out) it doesnt help.

deletedover 6 years

dr3amer says

game summary.

start day1 reaction testing granny and i tr her all game for this

sheriff then was not outing so i claimed sheriff to try to get them to out.

4:58 i reaction tested ally and fossed them for this

6:09-6:32 i tried to get sheriff to shoot the naked so he did not shoot the caroler

8:44 caroler had not outed so i said i caroled someone to see if they would out a fake carol/reaction test

10:05 i tried to flip the lynch off someone i did not fos to my fos

10:33 i set up rs to be caroler with the caroler but they later backed out

15:15 i continue to lead on my sr for the rest of the day

so where here did i troll so much to make this game unplayable?

read this and tell me how my trolling strategy negatively impacted the game or was like there to just bother other people?

blacksnakemoan

over 6 years

hey if you're gonna post stupid bullshït i'm gonna downvote it lmao

you've been told a million times how you trolled AND you admitted to doing it

you don't like me but don't treat me like i'm a fᴜcking idiot

deletedover 6 years

blacksnakemoan says

isp isn't given on the circumstances of one day, it takes the entire game into account.

anyway, if you won't respond to my comment above, i won't continue this discussion. as far as i'm concerned this issue is done as the report has been sustained and you've shown no proof of this being legitimate gameplay. your only defence is "we still won" which neither i, not jm, nor the town players give damn about

did you even read the rest of this tread? i said what i did and why line by line