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The Mods Are At It Again

about 6 years

Corrupt moderator blacksnakemoan has sent me and shounen a private message telling us not to play games with each other anymore, signing it with “your friendly mod team x”.

Besides the obvious passive aggressiveness dripping from that signature, the sanctions laid upon me and shounen are unjust and peak definition of this place being a toxic environment. It shows that even something like playing a round together with a specific person can result in suspension. It’s discriminatory and hurtful. Yes, we’ve played every round this comp together. No, we did NOT cheat. You can play a game with the same people and not cheat, you know. It’s called having friends. Not to forget, we were on opposite teams a lot of the time, and I’m not even in the top 28 anymore. Why are we being accused of something like this? We did nothing wrong.

Now's your chance to voice your opinion in the form of a poll. Is mod blacksnakemoan corrupt?
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YES
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NO
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Perception & Cognition
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Yeah giga you're gonna tell Me what the point of My two first posts were. Okay dude
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Nobody says

You can play with a friend in red hearts where you won’t be effecting the competitiveness for other players. Some people want to trophy and try hard for it and you coming and playing all your games with one friend and having a 84% win rate isn’t really fair for others.


if flygon was allowed to trophy then why are these people subjected to a different rule?
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slater says

I think it's pretty clear that it meant if I binned them, they'd be getting banned/DQ'd. That isn't hard to comprehend


well no, it wasn't but OK
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You can play with a friend in red hearts where you won’t be effecting the competitiveness for other players. Some people want to trophy and try hard for it and you coming and playing all your games with one friend and having a 84% win rate isn’t really fair for others.
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I think it's pretty clear that it meant if I binned them, they'd be getting banned/DQ'd. That isn't hard to comprehend
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Nobody says

Yeah but it’s only fair from looking at stats alone shounen has 21/25 wins. Imagine if I played with a friend and had a 84% win rate. It’s not competitive or fair


if you think they cheated or threw for each other then get evidence and ban them, else let them enjoy playing with their friends like flygon and friends did.
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not sure why you want to pick a fight when all i'm saying is sometimes people are innocent. these guys may very well be guilty but there's innocent people who get binned sometimes. that's the point of my post idiot
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slater says

Thanks for sharing giga? Not sure what the point of that was. I know a meta abuser/cheater when I see one



slater says

Every bin i've ever made ended up getting the players involved banned/DQ'd


well i'm not sure what the point of this was
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Thanks for sharing giga? Not sure what the point of that was. I know a meta abuser/cheater when I see one
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shounen has 21/25 wins


what does this have to do with playing with a friend though


Giga13 says

If they continue to play together though and all you're doing is letting them know they will likely get investigated if they continue, then that's OK, but that's not what they have been told


also i agree with this. im fine being warned that we'll get investigated because theres nothing wrong happening in our games. if you want to cry meta abuse or something so be it but if you actually look at the games youd see theres no funny business from me at all ^_^
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slater says

Every bin i've ever made ended up getting the players involved banned/DQ'd


i've made 2 or 3 where i found innocence before
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basically ignore my first post on page 2
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Every bin i've ever made ended up getting the players involved banned/DQ'd
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You guys are blatantly meta abusing, don't make me bin you two shítheads
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Nobody says

Yeah but it’s only fair from looking at stats alone shounen has 21/25 wins. Imagine if I played with a friend and had a 84% win rate. It’s not competitive or fair


Ok that's wild and then this is probably the correct call
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Yeah but it’s only fair from looking at stats alone shounen has 21/25 wins. Imagine if I played with a friend and had a 84% win rate. It’s not competitive or fair
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for kerry/dave/slow i'm not saying the rule is right, but if that's how it was moderated and they were TOLD that's how it was moderated..........

"let me just temporarily ignore this rule for my friendz"
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vilden says

They're not suspended man


round dqd/suspended/whatever you want to call it

not yet but they will be if they play more games
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Giga13 says

I get what vilden's saying but like it seems cheap to round suspend people based on number of games alone, but yes, it does make moderator work easier


They're not suspended man
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Giga13 says


Hugo says

Dave kerry and slowbro played 60 games together and won a trophy. So there is no limit.


I think there are only 50 games in a ten-day round so that's not possible, nice hyperbole

But if they played a lot like that and won a trophy I don't get how you can tell two other people to stop right now and DQ them if they don't without compiling evidence when you didn't for Dave/Kerry/Slowbro...


https://epicmafia.com/round/700

43 with hibiki. 5 with connor. And when you add lacey and kerry in. It means no game without a friend.
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I get what vilden's saying but like it seems cheap to round suspend people based on number of games alone, but yes, it does make moderator work easier. And if it's been consistently done in the past, then ok
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Hugo says

https://epicmafia.com/round/113

48 with kerry and 11 with enamored. Total of 59. Sorry for saying 60. It is 59.


lmao they should have been suspended then if that's how it's been moderated, did they weasel out of it through complaining on the forums?
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There should be a limit anyway I must be high

But it has to be followed no matter who the f*ck you're dealing with
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vilden says


Giga13 says

If there's no report on them for meta abusing/cheating then mods should not be able to tell them to stop playing with each other. There needs to be compiled evidence with proof and it has to be made in a report before you tell two people to stop playing with each other. We can't just go around telling people to stop without providing evidence.

While I appreciate the mods' efforts since I used to do the same thing with these sorts of investigations, evidence should always have to be provided before telling two users to stop playing together.

Edit: They've played a lot of games together yes, but unless you can find evidence of them cheating then they shouldn't be suspended. If they continue to play together though and all you're doing is letting them know they will likely get investigated if they continue, then that's OK, but that's not what they have been told


First of all, this is a troll thread but to you guys posting: since when do mods have to write pastebins to stop friends playing 30 games with one another? It's always been handled this way. Even lasting into consecutive rounds. So players have been told not to play together at the beginning of a round where a pastebin obviously wouldn't of been possible

It's already asking a lot to write cheat bins (that result in vio's), but neglecting reports is worse. So many toss accounts roam free, for example melonf'ucker, a user with 5 open reports for throwing. He has outlasted the players involved here who knew they were pushing their luck (refer to the title). Like holy s'hit do you want these people investing their lives on simple decisions involving moderation?


Was it always handled like that? I legit don't remember

If so why were dave/kerry/slowbro not dqd when slowbro trophied after being told not to then