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Sandbox role tier - 2018 version

moonlightseal

almost 7 years

*7/3/2 standard setup btw

S tier: this is broken tier, or roles that are so good, even on their own, and can easily guarantee wins

S++: Necromancer, Resurrectionist, Zombie, Phantom

S+: Poisoner, Seer, Supervillian, Borg (cause of bugs, without bugs, its actually lower than cult)

S: Chef, Hitman, Clown, Rainmaker, turkey

S-: King, Yak, Diabolist, Snow Queen, Whistleblower, vengefulspirit

A tier: They are good roles but not really OP, can easily win games if in hand of good players

A+: Stalker, Actress, Justice, Cult, Det, Santa, Surgeon, troublemaker

A: BS, Slasher, Bride, Guiser

A-: Arsonist, Mastermind, Nomad, Usuper, Multineer, Fab, tracker, ghost/polter

B tier: They are good roles and need skills to win the game. The chance to win game when using those roles are average

B+: Queen bee, Forger, Tailor, Vent, Spy, Medusa, Scout, all cops, psychic, Monkey, Monk, Mason, demotioner

B: Watcher, mimic, dreamer, caroler, comedian, gs, armdealer, cutler, Priest, Granny, Crier, Gov, maid, amn, fool, Voodoo, Illu, asso, Hearthbreaker, Witch, ceptor, Driver, Gramp

B-: Terror, Vigs, Celeb, Tree, Tinkerer, Jailkeep, Commuter, Crat, Sidekick, Lover, tele/whisperer

C tier: They are somewhat unique roles/good in their jobs. Even when they don't help/do much, they can be a good supporter. However, they dont need too many skills to use and therefore, they may not make any big impact in the game

C+ : Don, hooker, Fillbuster, Housekeeper, loudmouth, Invi man, Agent, Jailer, Cyclist doctor, nurse, bodyguard, Avenger, Sherr, dep, Forager, Vivor, Lyncher, Mistletoe, clock, gambler

C: Jan, Ninja, Plumber, gossiper Keymaker, journalist, trapper, virgin, Penguin, Snowman, Party, Butterfly, neighbour, Killer - admirer, Anar, ww

C-: Catlady, apprentice, Inform, Look out, Lyzer, sniper, Prosecutor, robinhood, Mourner medium crank and most other dead roles

D tier: They have something that make them better than blue/nilla, or make them winnable 3rd. Yes, they are bad

ghoul, oracle, hunter, huntman, bomb, bleeder, trickster, bulletproof, snoop, gallis, soldier, gun/sharp, strongman, interrogator, toreador, fiddler, silencer, thief, librarian, butler, angel

E tier: The standards (or really hard to win 3rd): Blue, nilla, rival, prophet, thlu, alien, Partysmacker

F tier: Lightkeeper, Siren, Recruit, Jack, Vice president

Unrated tier: President, Creepy girl, Baker

SirAmelio

almost 7 years

why is crier so high? does it have any use other than an auto clear?

moonlightseal

almost 7 years

Mistletoe can be played as alien, choose same people in both meeting. So it must be better than a D.

The best thing about it is its hostile, meaning people will give u a free night after they lynch all the mafs.

The worst thing is it needs to stay alive in 3-4 nights most of the times to win. But most of the 3rds need to be alive in 3-4 nights to win.

Claiming as justice is not a really good idea. Claim as a cop testing sanity or fake a carol to simply eliminate failed match is good.

DoozesGayHedgehog

almost 7 years

mistletoe should be much lower than C+ as winning with it is nearly impossible and you technically qualify as a hostile third so even if you help town get mafia they still have to lynch you

the only thing you can do that can work even remotely is claim justice but if mafia has half a brain they'll kill you the night after you do

LekkuLover

almost 7 years

move up tinkerer
they take justice into their own hands
ESPECIALLY broken if people forget you exist since you get a guaranteed gun every night

moonlightseal

almost 7 years

Yes

SirAmelio

almost 7 years

Wait what's that fab knife bug? It literally works like a cutler so you can even give knives to your partners?

Shwartz99

almost 7 years

Hey this is pretty good!

moonlightseal

almost 7 years

I always make fake carol as guiser then guise out :) Also you play as a forger like too as guiser, and people would mostly follow what you wrote in will, cause it doesnt look like probed since its your own will

You can play fab in many ways you want. Fab knife is actually real knife, despite different message. You can give knife to your partner, basically u have a second poisoner there. Or you can play as mini asso, give knife to a villager, then make everyone thinks hes maf later. Giving fabbed gun is also fun. Fabbed bread to fake claim baker. Fabbed snowball to fake claim snowman, theres a few roles that can check that. Fabbed vest and fabbed crystal is bad though. Fabbed key sucks, dont do it

SirAmelio

almost 7 years

im more interested on why guiser is so high since its only real advantage is escaping if its cornered by a carol/dream/report and managed to survive the lynch (Not saying it's not good, but i dont think its S tier good)

associate should be A tier at worst tbh, in fact i'd argue that associate > fabricator

nearbeer

almost 7 years

nepenthe says

bleeder is like F-

"D tier: They have something that make them better than blue/nilla, or make them winnable 3rd"

Because delaying death by one day is pretty much always a plus, they are not tier F.

Not sure why they're above BP, however. Kinda makes me want to make my own.

deletedalmost 7 years

lightkeeper isn't bad