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N1 Vig in Reverse Maf is optimal.

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There is an EXTREMELY popular opinion that n1 vig is a noob/idiotic move.

Firstly, this is based on the actual truth that all noobs are going to n1 as vig and that (due to this popular peer pressured opinion) most experienced players will kill no one n1 as vig. The issue is that just because all noobs would do it and most experienced players wouldn't doesn't, in itself, prove that the majority who no-kill are in the right.

I will now prove why the minority of experienced players who do n1 as vig are not idiotic gamblers but wise gamblers: There are 10 players overall. 6 of them are ones you want to kill n1 (traitors+fool). Note that it is actually a 66.67% shot you are taking and not a 60% shot because you know you yourself are not one of the 6 and therefore it'a a 6/9 shot in the dark and not a 6/10).

The argument that you can n1 stalker and unrank the game (which is a 11.11% chance) or that you can kill the masoned player and/or the same as stalker both which hurt town is just not how you should analyse a gamble. You don't think "oh no this can go wrong so therefore it's unwise" you should think which is more likely; it going right or wrong and use this combined with the extent of profit in deciding to go for it or not. In reality killing off a mason isn't too bad n1 unless the stalker kills the other one too. The only person you could kill n1 who really will impact your chances of winning negatively by a huge percentage is the tracker as you now have heavily nerfed the information with which the masons can operate AROUND the possibility of masoning the stalker.

So, in reality, the stalker and the tracker are the only game-hampering kills you could make n1 and since you can still win easily-enough with tracker dead (especially with the skill level of most reverse maf players being hella low) you are only really needing to fear killing the stalker n1 or the same as the stalker kills which all in all is a 22.22% chance of failure in your shot.

So, taking ALL ANGLES of thinking into your frame of mind, n1ing as the vig is pretty much either helping you or not mattering too much 77.88% of the time.

over 6 years

lacey says


Alex says

lacey look on the bright side, if you let this guy monitor your hall no one will ever know for sure if he did or didn't do it



UnknownGangster says

If/when I was a hall monitor in lacey's \/ag, I was the type you cowered before.





and now i'm imagining UnknownGangster, the BDSM hall monitor paddling kids with their hall passes
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Alex says

lacey look on the bright side, if you let this guy monitor your hall no one will ever know for sure if he did or didn't do it


god i'm waiting for the "only a sith deals in absolutes" rebuttal from him
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Alex says

lacey look on the bright side, if you let this guy monitor your hall no one will ever know for sure if he did or didn't do it



UnknownGangster says

If/when I was a hall monitor in lacey's \/ag, I was the type you cowered before.

over 6 years
lacey look on the bright side, if you let this guy monitor your hall no one will ever know for sure if he did or didn't do it
deletedover 6 years
If you leak this, I'll slit your throat.

I, DrJackShephard, am applying to be mod. Here are the five reasons why you should mod me.

a. I have a 56% win rate.
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-shaming AND virgin-shaming. You just can't win with me
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Recidivism says

If you guys thought the thread was funny read the report


why read the book when you have the movie
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UnknownGangster 48m 2s
Is sexist and sIut-shaming in this post to another user than myself while simultaneously virgin-shaming someone he knows nothing about:

Recidivism27s
It's okay UnknownGangster I have good news, you won't be a virgin long, lacey likes you. She wants you to monitor her hall, I can tell.
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UnknownGangster 1h 15m
He mocks/devalues the integrity of being a mod or banning someone by mockingly posting this:

Recidivism24s
UnknownGangster
Recidivism
I said I'm not a role mod because I'm THE role mod. One more word and I'm going to ban you for cheating, pal.
go ahead and ban me with your role mod powers.
By the power vested in me by the State of Epicmafia, I hereby BAN YOU for CHEATING
over 6 years

Greninja says

what does the final draft of unknowngangster's inevitable mod app look like


if i still had mod archives access i would just copy one of mafiagod's 2014 applications and change the name
deletedover 6 years
If you guys thought the thread was funny read the report
deletedover 6 years
what does the final draft of unknowngangster's inevitable mod app look like
over 6 years

lacey says

i feel blessed that, of all the times i could've chosen to return to epic mafia dot com, it just happened to be when this thread existed


i think we should just leave again, i doubt we're topping this one
deletedover 6 years
i feel blessed that, of all the times i could've chosen to return to epic mafia dot com, it just happened to be when this thread existed
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Recidivism says


lacey says


Recidivism says

It's okay UnknownGangster I have good news, you won't be a virgin long, lacey likes you. She wants you to monitor her hall, I can tell.


you upset me so much


It's okay lacey a strong feminist lesbian WOMAN like yourself don't need no man monitoring her halls, that's some 16th century sh*t


i don't tell you often enough that i hate you
over 6 years
the teachers look to me in search of a hero, and i look back and answer "inconclusive"
over 6 years
honestly like i'm about to go apply to mod just so i can sticky this and preserve it for all eternity
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Yeah I thought funny EM threads were a thing of the past but this guy really took one for the team, can we get a round of applause
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it was brave of him to respect the oath of secrecy that hall monitors have to abide by
over 6 years
back in my day, when i may or may not have patrolled the halls for peers without a bathroom pass,
over 6 years
guys i think "if/when i was a hall monitor" might be my favorite thing on the internet
deletedover 6 years
this thread is still going on? sick
over 6 years
this thread is like 10x funnier because i'm still in he habit of seeing a long name that starts with the letter U and mentally filing it as a zovea post
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lacey says


Recidivism says

It's okay UnknownGangster I have good news, you won't be a virgin long, lacey likes you. She wants you to monitor her hall, I can tell.


you upset me so much


It's okay lacey a strong feminist lesbian WOMAN like yourself don't need no man monitoring her halls, that's some 16th century sh*t
over 6 years
you don't have to love me. you don't even have to like me. but you WILL respect me, because i'm a Boss