Epicmafia

More Unranked Games for Newbies

over 7 years

For a game to not be annoying, the people in it have to be, well, not annoying. It is infuriating, to an extent, when you enter a game and the pr, your mafia teammate, the cop, a cleared townie, or just a regular blue doesn't know how to play because they ruin the game by (unintentionally) throwing.

In no way do I want new players punished for messing up games. What I think would be the best for them would be to increase the number of unranked games played before you can play ranked.

If you have any questions or opinions, please share in the comments below :) -KindSoul :)

More Unranked Games for Newbies

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Sign this if you want an increase of played unranked games before a player is able to play ranked. If you have any questions or opinions, please share in the comments below :)

Should there be an increase of unranked games to play before playing ranked, and if so, how many should there be? If you have any questions or opinions, please share in the comments below :)

SocialBunny

over 7 years

also true noobs aren't the one ruining comp games. this site is bleeding users and you think we should make it more tedious for new players without making it any easier or more accessible?

SocialBunny

over 7 years

1. most unranked games aren't long enough to meet the threshold to "count as unranked". most accs already have to play more than 5 games to play ranked
2. most unranked games are circlejerk/for lulz and not really based on strats
3. people in unranked are almost as bad as in sandbox with kicking noobs and noavis
4. the 5 game requirement plus 1500 points is already super tedious for alts so unless you remove it for linked accounts... i would not be down

Just make a primer guide for noobs that shows after you create an account with a brief explanation of the main setups, links to frequently used terms, and links to the mentor program.

deletedover 7 years

Add more hearts and confuse the idiot new players who fail to understand basic mafia mechanics and rules. At this rate, can we just have a button that says "Click me!" and when you click it tells you that you're sh1t?

deletedover 7 years

perhaps making something like green hearts of which you get 5 of per day (threshold 10) where setups like fancy pants/gnh etc. get played where newer players can join and learn the ropes but experienced players can play to help out and fill tables. it's also a good thing for like mentors to watch over and help legitimately new players. upon joining the site you'd receive 5 green hearts and wouldn't gain access to red hearts until you had like maybe 250 points (basically 5 wins). just some food for thought.

edited: these games would be extremely lightly moderated especially on newer players.

deletedover 7 years

unranked games consist of circlejerking dumbs***s and it's very surprising that any new player that joins this site willingly sits through 4 of those (if they last long enough) to actually play red hearts.

delete thread.

Zovea

over 7 years

KindSoul says

I'm surprised you don't see a number of players who don't know what they're doing. It will help. Plus, if there's no harm in it and it can do good, why is this so bad?

Pointfarm =/= experience

He's suggesting something that will make the players he's complaining about worse. Players aren't learning things about other players from game to game because they play 53% townsided setups day in and day out negating any reason to improve. Forcing them to play more of this is going to do the opposite of what he wants.

Gafgarion

over 7 years

I'd agree with this so long as linked alts are excluded from this requirement.

deletedover 7 years

Zhuorb says

Pointfarming and unranked, pick one.

I don't think you get it.

deletedover 7 years

Zovea says

Forcing players to spend more time pointfarming isn't going to decrease the chances of them ruining a game. Until we get comp mods and reforms, you're just going to have to suffer with what you get.

I'm surprised you don't see a number of players who don't know what they're doing. It will help. Plus, if there's no harm in it and it can do good, why is this so bad?

Pointfarm =/= experience

Zhuorb

over 7 years

Pointfarming and unranked, pick one.

Zovea

over 7 years

Forcing players to spend more time pointfarming isn't going to decrease the chances of them ruining a game. Until we get comp mods and reforms, you're just going to have to suffer with what you get.

Zovea

over 7 years

Tutorial: Afk as blue/mafia, demand hammers when you're clear/PR

Congrats, you're well on your way to being an elite pointfarmer.

J0K3RLives

over 7 years

LazyYami says

I think the best fix to this would be making a player have to play a setup unranked say 3-5 times before they can play it ranked or comped, this way they already know the setup enough to not f*ck everyone else over. This would only be for new accounts since after so many games of w/e setup you should know how to operate a different role and play to its win condition.

Apparently, as I have come to find out, the OG mafia setup is difficult for new players. I don't know what this reason is for but I totally agree with the tutorial thing and seeing as people conjure up strats for the setups so I think that a great compromise between the two ideas is to take best strategies for a popular setup, summarise it and throw it in a textbox so when they join, it shows up and they gain an understanding of how the roles work in certain situations. With that they can also reopen the box whenever and you can then allow them to play ranked. Assuming they understand the basic concept of "I don't know what I'm doing, let me click this box" it may work out. There could be some sort of improvement to this but I think this is a minimal effort solution.

J0K3RLives

over 7 years

KindSoul says

Dared says

Instead of having GT vios for new players, could we instead them a leash if they unintentionally threw?

A leash as in, having a set number of unranked games that need to be played in order for another ranked game to be played.

there is a thing about reporting new players, but this is about the experience

I think what would be great is if new players get "reports" to scare the hell out of them but when they can play comp the reports don't anything and assuming these are brand new members entirely it shouldn't be a problem adding it as long as you don't publicly announce it.

deletedover 7 years

Harrold says

Delete this thread before it gives people cancer.

I would love to hear your opinion on why this thread would "give people cancer".

btw the cancer "meme" is overused and boring. hope you have a great day <3

deletedover 7 years

PatrykSzczescie says

A Role Moderator approves this thread.

J0K3RLives

over 7 years

jess says

how do i make troll alts if i have to play 25 unranked games first

I feel like they should make this so that people who make alts can choose whether this is their first time playing (for the people that make accounts for friends and use their account for whatever reason) or make it so that they have played before but in doing so they have to have a reasonable amount of games played on their main.

Harrold

over 7 years

Delete this thread before it gives people cancer.

jess

over 7 years

how do i make troll alts if i have to play 25 unranked games first

deletedover 7 years

They aren't gonna learn anything. Making them stay in unranked longer is gonna make it worse.

deletedover 7 years

Lol. Because increasing unranked games is gonna help.

PatrykSzczescie

over 7 years

A Role Moderator approves this thread.

HelloImDenis

over 7 years

LazyYami says

HelloImDenis says

LazyYami says

The problem isn't the amount of unranked games, more so the types of unranked games being played

There isn't a proper tutorial mode/tab in the site. You just enter a game, and you get on with guys screaming at you for your inexperience and lack of knowledge or people who don't care about you and will just ignore you instead of trying to help.

There should be something yelling at you when you create an account for the 1st time: "OK THESE ARE THE BASICS, THESE ARE SOME OF THE MOST POPULAR ROLES, THESE ARE OPTIMAL PLAYS, BLA BLA BLA, YOU SHOULD PLAY TO YOUR WINNING CONDITION, BLA BLA BLA, DO THIS DON'T DO THAT, ETC"

I agree with this, but my statement was more about how the majority of the setups being played unranked aren't the ones that are ranked. As for comp setups, no one really plays those at all besides the people in comp.

I think the best fix to this would be making a player have to play a setup unranked say 3-5 times before they can play it ranked or comped, this way they already know the setup enough to not f*ck everyone else over. This would only be for new accounts since after so many games of w/e setup you should know how to operate a different role and play to its win condition.

(i wasnt disagreeing with you, i was quoting you to help my argument)

I don't think anyone capable of playing that setup ranked/comp would play it unranked along with the guy that needs to do so.

deletedover 7 years

HelloImDenis says

LazyYami says

The problem isn't the amount of unranked games, more so the types of unranked games being played

There isn't a proper tutorial mode/tab in the site. You just enter a game, and you get on with guys screaming at you for your inexperience and lack of knowledge or people who don't care about you and will just ignore you instead of trying to help.

There should be something yelling at you when you create an account for the 1st time: "OK THESE ARE THE BASICS, THESE ARE SOME OF THE MOST POPULAR ROLES, THESE ARE OPTIMAL PLAYS, BLA BLA BLA, YOU SHOULD PLAY TO YOUR WINNING CONDITION, BLA BLA BLA, DO THIS DON'T DO THAT, ETC"

I agree with this, but my statement was more about how the majority of the setups being played unranked aren't the ones that are ranked. As for comp setups, no one really plays those at all besides the people in comp.

I think the best fix to this would be making a player have to play a setup unranked say 3-5 times before they can play it ranked or comped, this way they already know the setup enough to not f*ck everyone else over. This would only be for new accounts since after so many games of w/e setup you should know how to operate a different role and play to its win condition.

HelloImDenis

over 7 years

LazyYami says

The problem isn't the amount of unranked games, more so the types of unranked games being played

There isn't a proper tutorial mode/tab in the site. You just enter a game, and you get on with guys screaming at you for your inexperience and lack of knowledge or people who don't care about you and will just ignore you instead of trying to help.

There should be something yelling at you when you create an account for the 1st time: "OK THESE ARE THE BASICS, THESE ARE SOME OF THE MOST POPULAR ROLES, THESE ARE OPTIMAL PLAYS, BLA BLA BLA, YOU SHOULD PLAY TO YOUR WINNING CONDITION, BLA BLA BLA, DO THIS DON'T DO THAT, ETC"