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gender enlightenment

cub
over 7 years

so there are a lot of genders these days. you have your girls, your boys, genderliquids, demigirls, demibois, boypussy, the list goes on

this is a good start, but i think it's time we evolve to the next logical step: percentages

how do they work? gender, like autism, is a spectrum. if you're in between you might call yourself nonbinary. if you're a little to one side but not quite you might be a demi aka unfinished boy or girl. if you're a normie you're just a plain old boy or girl. the point is, these are all just points on the spectrum

the next stage transcends all of this: percentages. instead of a demigirl, you're 50% fem. instead of a demidemigirl, you're 25% fem. instead of a boy you're 75% mas. instead of a MAN you're 100% mas

what if you're a half-demidemigirl? now, instead of looking like an idiot, you can just say you're approximately 37.5% gay. the possibilities are endless when you truly evolve and start using decimals

blood4bloodgod
over 7 years
if gender cannot be chosen, i.e. it is innate and intrinsic, and social valuations are extrinsic, and further, these valuations are always in flux - how can you have a natural predilection towards specific attributes. You don't just go down a checklist to determine your gender. Oh, i like long hair, that's +2 womin pts, I like suits, thats +5 men pts, etc etc welp I'm at 62% man, I gues im demiman. You can be a woman that likes short hair and a man that likes long hair, but at the end you're still a woman and a man respectively. These things are personal tastes, not genders.
cub
over 7 years

Sishen says

what if they're girls because they were born with a certain set of chromosomes


that's sex not gender

you can tell the difference from brain chemistry because tranny brains actually resemble the sex they identify with

one is mental the other is physical
deletedover 7 years

Sishen says

what if they're girls because they were born with a certain set of chromosomes


read 'the second sex' by beauvoir, french philosopher
Sishen
over 7 years
what if they're girls because they were born with a certain set of chromosomes
deletedover 7 years

cub says

girls who surround themselves with pink are incredibly girly and feminine and it's not because pink is inherently girly but because of its association with femininity now. if it was still baby blue they would flock to that instead


so why do these associations happen in the first place
cub
over 7 years
but not all girls like super feminine things like that, some like feminine things but not too much some don't care some even avoid it and that's because they're not all equally feminine they're somewhere different on the scale
cub
over 7 years
girls who surround themselves with pink are incredibly girly and feminine and it's not because pink is inherently girly but because of its association with femininity now. if it was still baby blue they would flock to that instead
cub
over 7 years

blood4bloodgod says

I've never seen any concrete proof that gender is a gradient. The only gradient I see are the attributes and physical constructs we ascribe to gender, not the other way around. Classically long hair was masculine, now it's feminine, etc.


yes gender isn't about attributes, it's about association. women aren't feminine because they have long hair but because long hair is associated with femininity and they in turn associate themselves with long hair

society assigns value to things and what attracts people to that value is dependent on their own neural makeup. people who want to be edgy aren't edgy because they post dark memes but because they know that dark memes are edgy and therefore use them like they would use anything that they see with a positive correlation with themselves and how they identify

gender determines your preference for things associated with that gender
blood4bloodgod
over 7 years

cub says


blood4bloodgod says

There is no sliding scale because the valuation of what is and isn't socially masculine and socially feminine is never static. And seeing as how in a non binary system of gender you juxtapose your gender valuation on this fluid rubric, you end up with a big fat pile of nonsense. You're male or female. The end.


what society wants isn't always what society gets

can you deny that autism is a spectrum just because some people are and aren't diagnosed with it? the facts don't care if you want a clear-cut answer, the facts are that everybody is different in different ways and it's a gradient

hair color is a gradient. dark brunette, brunette, dirty blonde, blonde, etc.
height is a gradient. you're not one of a few select heights, you're any of a scale of heights
skin color is a gradient. pasty, white, tan, mixed, black, don cheadle. you're not just white or black, you're any of an endless range of pigments

the same applies to your brain
you're not either stupid, normal, or genius; you're somewhere between all-dumb and all-knowing
you're not either straight or gay, you can be bi, you can be bi with a preference, you can be straight but lay claim to the boypussy


I've never seen any concrete proof that gender is a gradient. The only gradient I see are the attributes and physical constructs we ascribe to gender, not the other way around. Classically long hair was masculine, now it's feminine, etc.
Sishen
over 7 years

cub says


blood4bloodgod says

There is no sliding scale because the valuation of what is and isn't socially masculine and socially feminine is never static. And seeing as how in a non binary system of gender you juxtapose your gender valuation on this fluid rubric, you end up with a big fat pile of nonsense. You're male or female. The end.


what society wants isn't always what society gets

can you deny that autism is a spectrum just because some people are and aren't diagnosed with it? the facts don't care if you want a clear-cut answer, the facts are that everybody is different in different ways and it's a gradient

hair color is a gradient. dark brunette, brunette, dirty blonde, blonde, etc.
height is a gradient. you're not one of a few select heights, you're any of a scale of heights
skin color is a gradient. pasty, white, tan, mixed, black, don cheadle. you're not just white or black, you're any of an endless range of pigments

the same applies to your brain
you're not either stupid, normal, or genius; you're somewhere between all-dumb and all-knowing
you're not either straight or gay, you can be bi, you can be bi with a preference, you can be straight but lay claim to the boypussy


traps are gay
cub
over 7 years
although i will say gender pronouns are pointless, but unfortunately "they" is plural and i refuse as an english speaker to use it when referring to a singular entity
cub
over 7 years

blood4bloodgod says

This is what happens when you have a generation of people raised without a strong masculine father figure. You get a bunch of idiots sitting around demanding they be called xhe over she/he instead of getting a gat damn job.


make-believe pronouns are totally unrelated

xhe doesn't fall anywhere on the spectrum, it falls under wanting to be quirky and different
cub
over 7 years

blood4bloodgod says

There is no sliding scale because the valuation of what is and isn't socially masculine and socially feminine is never static. And seeing as how in a non binary system of gender you juxtapose your gender valuation on this fluid rubric, you end up with a big fat pile of nonsense. You're male or female. The end.


what society wants isn't always what society gets

can you deny that autism is a spectrum just because some people are and aren't diagnosed with it? the facts don't care if you want a clear-cut answer, the facts are that everybody is different in different ways and it's a gradient

hair color is a gradient. dark brunette, brunette, dirty blonde, blonde, etc.
height is a gradient. you're not one of a few select heights, you're any of a scale of heights
skin color is a gradient. pasty, white, tan, mixed, black, don cheadle. you're not just white or black, you're any of an endless range of pigments

the same applies to your brain
you're not either stupid, normal, or genius; you're somewhere between all-dumb and all-knowing
you're not either straight or gay, you can be bi, you can be bi with a preference, you can be straight but lay claim to the boypussy
LeChuck
over 7 years

blood4bloodgod says

This is what happens when you have a generation of people raised without a strong masculine father figure. You get a bunch of idiots sitting around demanding they be called xhe instead of she/he instead of getting a gat damn job.


Yeah! Goddamn pronouns! They took our jobs!
Merlot
over 7 years
where am i in the spectrum
LeChuck
over 7 years
blood4bloodgod
over 7 years
This is what happens when you have a generation of people raised without a strong masculine father figure. You get a bunch of idiots sitting around demanding they be called xhe over she/he instead of getting a gat damn job.
Sishen
over 7 years

blood4bloodgod says

There is no sliding scale because the valuation of what is and isn't socially masculine and socially feminine is never static. And seeing as how in a non binary system of gender you juxtapose your gender valuation on this fluid rubric, you end up with a big fat pile of nonsense. You're male or female. The end.


where do the gays fit on this system
deletedover 7 years
i don't even know what femininity or masculinity is anymore. what is woman? what is man? i read that 'men have lost themselves', and 'women have lost themselves' looking on the other side. some people look at some people and say 'that's not a woman' even if they're biologically one, same goes for the other side. i don't even know anymore
blood4bloodgod
over 7 years
There is no sliding scale because the valuation of what is and isn't socially masculine and socially feminine is never static. And seeing as how in a non binary system of gender you juxtapose your gender valuation on this fluid rubric, you end up with a big fat pile of nonsense. You're male or female. The end.
cub
over 7 years

Christopherzilla says

what if the gender percentages change daily according to the weather


according to the butterfly effect, they do
cub
over 7 years
0% would be neither

or both

either way it's not one specifically
Christopherzilla
over 7 years
what if the gender percentages change daily according to the weather
Sishen
over 7 years

cub says


Sishen says


cub says


Sishen says

so you can pick and choose what you want to be but im not allowed?


im giving you even more options what are you complaining about

you can be otherkin AND whatever gender you want you should be happy now you can be a girl dragon and take dragon dong all day like you've always dreamed


but im not a girl or boy dragon im a dragon and an attack helicopter


ok you can be 0% on the gender spectrum thats like your choice im not stopping you (cough) f*****


no if you're 0% you're dead this scale makes no sense
cub
over 7 years

verumbark says

im 0% gender


if you like girly things and girly clothes you're definitely not in the middle