Epicmafia

Sims

over 7 years

modern north korea isn't marxist-leninist

somethingwhatever

over 7 years

yes ppl who attempt a better world deserve to die

GentIeman

over 7 years

somethingwhatever says

u dont understand basic ideas of marxism leninsm tho, u dont understand that there r anarcho commies that were murdered in the ussr, and leftcom, orthodox marxists who 2 went to the gulags

They deserved it is the only thing i truly need to understand

somethingwhatever

over 7 years

and u conflate the two terms

projectmatt

over 7 years

GentIeman says

projectmatt says

Sims says

out of the 5 modern communist countries, would you not say their governments control everything?

mccarthy 2020

i mean from a technical definition, if those countries control everything, then they aren't a fully implemented communist society. it's supposed to have public ownership and no state.

you could argue that -attempting- communism inherently leads to government control, though

This has been my argument the whole time... Then you attack me for not understanding what communism is.

no, i attacked you for defining communism in a way that was not accurate at all. if you actually did understand it this whole time, it really did not look like it.

somethingwhatever

over 7 years

u dont understand basic ideas of marxism leninsm tho, u dont understand that there r anarcho commies that were murdered in the ussr, and leftcom, orthodox marxists who 2 went to the gulags

GentIeman

over 7 years

projectmatt says

Sims says

out of the 5 modern communist countries, would you not say their governments control everything?

mccarthy 2020

i mean from a technical definition, if those countries control everything, then they aren't a fully implemented communist society. it's supposed to have public ownership and no state.

you could argue that -attempting- communism inherently leads to government control, though

This has been my argument the whole time... Then you attack me for not understanding what communism is.

somethingwhatever

over 7 years

they r marxist-leninism they belive u need first a socialist state to then develop into a communist stateless society

Sims

over 7 years

i guess in a utopian communist society everything would be great, but that's a given in a utopian society

Sims

over 7 years

are you saying china, north korea, and cuba aren't communist?

hierarchy is not spelled with a qu

somethingwhatever

over 7 years

r u getting triggered snowflake

illuminati

over 7 years

somethingwhatever says

>calls everyone triggered snowflakes
>all woman screening of wonder woman
>*triggereing intensifies*

Please stop making posts like these.

projectmatt

over 7 years

Sims says

out of the 5 modern communist countries, would you not say their governments control everything?

mccarthy 2020

i mean from a technical definition, if those countries control everything, then they aren't a fully implemented communist society. it's supposed to have public ownership and no state.

you could argue that -attempting- communism inherently leads to government control, though

somethingwhatever

over 7 years

hm intersectionalism?? a system of hierarquie creates more hierarquies in itself???

Sims

over 7 years

somethingwhatever says

Sims says

i miss the 50s when communism was synonymous with evil

i 2 miss rapid racism and misogony those were the good times huh

each generation has its ups and downs

somethingwhatever

over 7 years

"no one will innovate under communism"
yuri gagaring laughs in the background

Sims

over 7 years

out of the 5 modern communist countries, would you not say their governments control everything?

mccarthy 2020

GentIeman

over 7 years

Sims says

i miss the 50s when communism was synonymous with evil

McCarthy was the hero we didn't deserve

somethingwhatever

over 7 years

Sims says

i miss the 50s when communism was synonymous with evil

i 2 miss rapid racism and misogony those were the good times huh

projectmatt

over 7 years

GentIeman says

projectmatt says

GentIeman says

You are beyond saving. You haven't said anything or even tried to debate me. All you have said is just read about communism and you'll see how it works.

That's because I'm not trying to have a serious debate with you. I'm asking you to read the actual theory on the topic of Communism, because if you want to have a debate about it, it's important that you know what you're talking about, and you clearly showed that you don't know even the dictionary definition of communism.

There's a lot of responses to the argument that society can't grow without a hierarchy - primarily, I don't think that's a particularly strong argument because it's based on "it's never happened before, so it can't work now" instead of something that inherently makes it impossible to happen. I think society can absolutely advance in a scenario like that, but it depends how you're defining "advance", since it's a vague word.

I said the literal definition never work because the coalition who put in place will never step down. Power has to go to somebody to put this into place; they will never step down. Ever. I have said that multiple times.
?

I'm specifically referring to the posts you made that said communism was about "the government controlling everything", as well as another one that I forgot.

Who said that there wouldn't be ways to advance under communism? There would be public ownership of things, but there would still be producers creating those things. The difference is that it would be a society where the things produced would actually be shared to benefit the collective good.

I wanna note that I don't actually have a strong stance on whether or not communism would -truly- work because I'm not sure, but I just get frustrated when people misunderstand it.

somethingwhatever

over 7 years

"the problems of the system r bad, but their root causes, they r so gooooooooood"

Sims

over 7 years

i miss the 50s when communism was synonymous with evil

GentIeman

over 7 years

somethingwhatever says