Epicmafia

If you think antifa is a good thing

over 7 years

You're cancer.

Even if you want to go with the uptick of fascism and white nationalism. Attacking them doesn't help your cause. All it does is give them more ammunition to say, "look how crazy the left has become".

One of the funny things is you guys fail to do is understand correlation vs causation. "After Trump won the white house, hate crimes raised."

This could also do with the fact with the high increase of terrorism in western countries in the last few years. Saying that its the west's fault for not being inclusive enough and that we should all just come together. Then terrorism will stop; Is extremely naive and counter intuitive.

I'm not saying that hate crimes of any sort should ever happen, they shouldn't, nor should certain people be barred from entering. But the liberal apology tour for other groups and just blaming the west and white people, is part of the cause for the rise of "white nationalism".

For the liberals having such a high college graduate segment, it's really sad how naive their world view is.

somethingwhatever

over 7 years

maybe the colonial powers just didnt care about the maps that were done

GentIeman

over 7 years

somethingwhatever says

u think fcking anarchists or even libertarian socialist give a damn about the borders some europeans draw on a map, and that if they dont take the whole syria they r not real, and that is just

Maybe if they knew how to draw maps they'd be able to form a stable country.

Sims

over 7 years

is rojava even considered communist

GentIeman

over 7 years

Sims says

i wouldn't use rojava as a positive example of communism anyway even if they're doing a decent job over there, it's less than 5 years old

"This one example that's only been around less then 5 years shows that communism works. TAKE THAT!! HAHA"

somethingwhatever

over 7 years

u think fcking anarchists or even libertarian socialist give a damn about the borders some europeans draw on a map, and that if they dont take the whole syria they r not real, and that is just

Sims

over 7 years

i wouldn't use rojava as a positive example of communism anyway even if they're doing a decent job over there, it's less than 5 years old

somethingwhatever

over 7 years

"It can't happen without overthrowing the government. What part of this are you not comprehending?"
THATS JUST NOT TRUE ROJAVA IS THE DE FACTO RULER OF NORTHERN SYRIA AND IT DOESNT WANT OVERTHROW DAMASCUS

GentIeman

over 7 years

Where was this ever implied? If it lasts for more then 10 years, then it will be stuck the same little shithole and never will expand if it keeps its ideology.

somethingwhatever

over 7 years

damascus is not in the kurdistan they wont invade the assad palace to overthrow him, they have no interest in that?!!!?!?!??!

somethingwhatever

over 7 years

the part where u think rojava has any intention of invading damascus????????????????

somethingwhatever

over 7 years

and sureeeee u may dont care about those peoples, cause they belive in things u think r utopians they deserve to die, but goddamn it i f*cking care and i wont let u fcking spit on their graves

GentIeman

over 7 years

somethingwhatever says

this is how marxists leninist regimes happens, u still dont understand the difference

projectmatt says

somethingwhatever says

this is how marxists leninist regimes happens, u still dont understand the difference

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It can't happen without overthrowing the government. What part of this are you not comprehending? Some little shithole in syria isn't an example of it working.

somethingwhatever

over 7 years

Sims says

if they stem from the same source why does it matter

CAUSE PEOPLE WERE LITERALLY KILLED CAUES OF THE DIFFERENCE?????

Sims

over 7 years

if they stem from the same source why does it matter

somethingwhatever

over 7 years

do even know an coms r a thing???? do u even heard about bakunin or piotr kropotkin or even rosa luxemburg

projectmatt

over 7 years

somethingwhatever says

this is how marxists leninist regimes happens, u still dont understand the difference

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somethingwhatever

over 7 years

this is how marxists leninist regimes happens, u still dont understand the difference

Sims

over 7 years

juche is a direct result of communism

GentIeman

over 7 years

projectmatt says

GentIeman says

projectmatt says

Sims says

out of the 5 modern communist countries, would you not say their governments control everything?

mccarthy 2020

i mean from a technical definition, if those countries control everything, then they aren't a fully implemented communist society. it's supposed to have public ownership and no state.

you could argue that -attempting- communism inherently leads to government control, though

This has been my argument the whole time... Then you attack me for not understanding what communism is.

no, i attacked you for defining communism in a way that was not accurate at all. if you actually did understand it this whole time, it really did not look like it.

You were attacking quotes of me making fun of it at its extreme ends. This is how communist regime happens.
1. People revolt
2. A coalition is formed
3. Coalition over throws government
4. Coalition is trusted to step down
5. Coalition never steps down

The idea that the state will ever secede all their power to the people without being overthrown is just stupid.

somethingwhatever

over 7 years

u could definitly argue fidel's cuba as a marxist state tho

somethingwhatever

over 7 years

maoism is dead in china and has been 4 deacades

Sims

over 7 years

china might be but they also drown female children so i don't look at them for guidance

somethingwhatever

over 7 years

wich isnt even communist they dont pretend to want a communist stateless society, they just want despotic state power