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Round 535 Discussion

over 7 years

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over 7 years
Maybe for scubs like you, frontier justice is the best setup to farm because people are dumb and don't understand how to play it.
over 7 years

GentIeman says


xxerox says


GentIeman says

In all 3 setups you posted, the mafia has the higher advantage...


Like Pony said. Mafia usually has slight adventage.


PonyLove says

Most competitive setups are generally slightly more scum sided.


Note on the slightly. 53 - 54% win for mafia is ok.. But 56% is plain scumsided unbalanced setup.


Good setups are balanced out to where scum has the advantage. Otherwise its a bad setup imo.


1-2% difference is not much adventage or disadantage. 6% is overkill.
over 7 years

xxerox says


GentIeman says

In all 3 setups you posted, the mafia has the higher advantage...


Like Pony said. Mafia usually has slight adventage.


PonyLove says

Most competitive setups are generally slightly more scum sided.


Note on the slightly. 53 - 54% win for mafia is ok.. But 56% is plain scumsided unbalanced setup.


Good setups are balanced out to where scum has the advantage. Otherwise its a bad setup imo.
over 7 years

xxerox says

Lets try this again:

A setup after 30 000 plays is balanced, while a setup ater 7000 plays barely holds the line of balance.

And you are allowing such setups to continue be comped because mafia is allowed to win every time.


Only 2 or 3 people are winning instead of 5-7. Someone isn't going to roll mafia 10 times in a row. But someone can roll town 10 times in a row. If you can't play a good town and fall into the 57% losing category, then you aren't very good anyway.
over 7 years

GentIeman says

In all 3 setups you posted, the mafia has the higher advantage...


Like Pony said. Mafia usually has slight adventage.


PonyLove says

Most competitive setups are generally slightly more scum sided.




Note on the slightly. 53 - 54% win for mafia is ok.. But 56% is plain scumsided unbalanced setup.
over 7 years

xxerox says

https://epicmafia.com/setup/672315

Frontier justice

43/56

after 7k plays.

UNBALANCED.

This is more like flipping a coin. If you flip mafia : WOHOO FREE WIN!


except for the other 43% of the time
over 7 years
Lets try this again:

A setup after 30 000 plays is balanced, while a setup ater 7000 plays barely holds the line of balance.

And you are allowing such setups to continue be comped because mafia is allowed to win every time.
over 7 years
In all 3 setups you posted, the mafia has the higher advantage...
over 7 years
https://epicmafia.com/setup/672315

Frontier justice

43/56

after 7k plays.

UNBALANCED.

This is more like flipping a coin. If you flip mafia : WOHOO FREE WIN!
over 7 years
https://epicmafia.com/setup/132122

Janitorial

48/51

after 30k plays.

Again balanced.
over 7 years

xxerox says

https://epicmafia.com/setup/731112

Holywood Illusions

49/50

after 7000 plays.

THIS is balanced.


so is flipping a coin
over 7 years
Cry n' Spy
https://epicmafia.com/setup/471195
48/51

after 5000 plays.

This again is balanced.
over 7 years

xxerox says

So now mafia should have the handicap of winning over town...

Are you saying minority should be superior to everyone else, and no one should be equal?


you got it
over 7 years
https://epicmafia.com/setup/731112

Holywood Illusions

49/50

after 7000 plays.

THIS is balanced.
over 7 years
So now mafia should have the handicap of winning over town...

Are you saying minority should be superior to everyone else, and no one should be equal?
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PatrykSzczescie says

Lono, you copy pasted that old rule, just changed three to five in one place and included that trophies can be won consecutively, but the rest was left out-of-date.


yes
over 7 years

xxerox says

Well, yeah, but i mafia wins every time and just hoard points at 57% . . .


There's less mafia so they should get the handicap.
over 7 years
With town winning every time, the only impact is that more players win.

The only impact as a whole is on the comp round leaderboard.

You are allowing players that flip mafia to win more ofted that way.

A good setup is around 50/50 after 1000 plays -.-
over 7 years
Lono, you copy pasted that old rule, just changed three to five in one place and included that trophies can be won consecutively, but the rest was left out-of-date.
over 7 years
Well, yeah, but i mafia wins every time and just hoard points at 57% . . .
over 7 years
PonyLove you have not a single clue
over 7 years
There are more town members than maf members in a game. Not everything is supposed to be equal.
over 7 years
Most competitive setups are generally slightly more scum sided. Setups with higher town win ratios than maf ratios are town sided for comp. That's why the ratios are different.
over 7 years
Either make it 57% for town too or 55% for mafia too, or there won't be a point to the rule.
over 7 years

PonyLove says

It means:

The town win ratio must be higher than 42 and lower than 55. The scum win ratio must be higher than 45 and lower than 57.


But that is just picking sides. You are picking mafia to win more games rather than town :/

They should have EQUAL chances to win. Not a table where mafia wins almost every time, but when town does, to be banned.