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Trusting the moderators

over 7 years

Greetings.

Yesterday when the banned user Sankarsh a.k.a. Error a.k.a. Fnoof revealed himself on his new account Mort, a pair of moderators were quick to come to his defense and petition for his unban. Later, the questionable user SirAmelio had leaked chat logs that revealed that Merlot had lied and worked to cover up Mort’s true identity. Amelio’s post was deleted moments afterwards, but here is a picture.

Merlot and Bebop’s questionable behavior regarding Sankarsh both in thread and out of thread is quite alarming, considering that Sankarsh has collaborated with other users to DDoS people, dox people, and hack admin accounts in the past. Bebop in particular posted a memoir in a Main lobby thread describing his fondness for Sankarsh.

Bebop and Merlot themselves are not above colluding with others to find and spread their victim’s personal information. Merlot, for example, believes that sending someone his or her personal information makes for a good joke. Bebop has threatened and harassed users in the past and continues to do so.

Any claim that Merlot or Bebop’s comments in Sankarsh’s thread were sarcastic or in jest cannot be taken seriously, especially when both have warped and unsettling senses of humour. Bebop is not above gaslighting, a trait he shares with Sankarsh.

The question I pose to the community is thus: how can we expect Merlot and Bebop to protect us as moderators and as Sandbox owners if they are willing to defend and cover up the identities of users like Sankarsh? Sankarsh craves the attention he receives from the EpicMafia community by virtue of being Error, but now he knows that Error will never be accepted by the community at large for as long as principled vanguards stand watchful, as questionable as they may be. In theory, Sankarsh could create another account, act in the same manner he has in the past (barring for his illegal behavior), and collude with Bebop and Merlot to protect his real identity, because they are not on our side, they are on his side.

Are there moderators on EpicMafia that you do not trust?
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Yes
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No
over 7 years

ollie says


Sishen says

are you implying there isn't a single person in the mod team that cares about the userbase?


no, but there's too many that don't. and what do you know? they're all friends with each other


name & shame lets go
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Sishen says

are you implying there isn't a single person in the mod team that cares about the userbase?


no, but there's too many that don't. and what do you know? they're all friends with each other
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desta says


Sishen says


packman852 says


Sishen says


dooze says











dont quote me





what did i just say


ollie says


Floor says

just small internet community things~


at least most internet communities have mods that care about their userbase


are you implying there isn't a single person in the mod team that cares about the userbase?
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Floor says

just small internet community things~


at least most internet communities have mods that care about their userbase
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Sishen says


packman852 says


Sishen says


dooze says











dont quote me

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packman852 says


Sishen says


dooze says











dont quote me
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Sishen says


dooze says







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dooze says




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no one can guess my alt
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cub says

post irony is just another irony meme


(((meme)))
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post irony is just another irony meme
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cub says

i dont know whats ironic with you and what isnt anymore sishen so i have to just assume the worst now


im post-ironic now get it right
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mods suck
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Everything Is Ironic And Yet Nothing Is
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i dont know whats ironic with you and what isnt anymore sishen so i have to just assume the worst now
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cub says


Bebop says

moderators being able to see alts again would be a lovely start


moderators outing alts again would be an annoying end


what do you have to hide
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Wait why don't they ban me immediately? Mods??????
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Bebop says

moderators being able to see alts again would be a lovely start


moderators outing alts again would be an annoying end
over 7 years

Bebop says

moderators being able to see alts again would be a lovely start


too much effort on lucids part
over 7 years
just small internet community things~
over 7 years
moderators being able to see alts again would be a lovely start
deletedover 7 years
Finally back home for a proper reply.

The moderators here are not here to protect the community.

Besides making sure things don't get too out of hand, respecting the individuals of the harassed and the doxed is not their jobs, that has been proven by them over time.

I'm not saying they're with error, I'm not saying they have sympathy for him, but OP brings up a good point in a violation of trust with the current moderating system considering quite a few events over the course of their run; unless they are openly stating who they are, there is no way that they can currently tell who banned users are and who is not. What if error was waiting to make another big move, and continue to hurt and dox people?

This isn't pointing blame, if people want to cause harm, they can, and if they are banned they can VPN and start anew on epicmafia and continue to do the same thing.

We shouldn't let this circle of hate continue

we should figure out how to stop things like this before it happens, certainly if they are planning to harm the community, as this is proof if any that the moderator team is unequipped
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he wasn't even banned so how can there be a dubious cover up
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Bebop says


Sishen says


SirAmelio says

To be fair i didnt have any proof that mort was error and i just said that based on what i heard and speculated myself.

Moreover after speaking with merlot last night i believe that she didnt actually know that mort was error.

If anything a criticism we could make out of this is that we shouldve kept investigating until we were sure and well, we didnt and i apologize to the community for that.


how do you investigate if nobody can see ips/alts except for lucid


from what i've been told (i haven't been around sandbox as much lately) it was fairly obvious he was an alt, so they could do the classic mod team trick of asking for a main account


hearsay witch hunts are very fun