Epicmafia

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ITT keeping your citizens safe is fascism

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CataractKush says

How the are you suppose to post pictures on here?

not caught up in the discussion but assuming you're talking about epicmafia forums:

it's bbcode, so you use [ img ] and [ /img ] tags around the link to your image, and I believe you have to host the image on a whitelisted website, so you can rehost it on imgur if it doesn't show up

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you need the direct link that ends in ".jpg" or png

Subwoofer7

almost 8 years

How the are you suppose to post pictures on here?

Devante

almost 8 years

CataractKush says

The Berkeley protest were completely peaceful until a couple dozen masked "ANTIFA" members show up. For some reason people haven't realized that Milo is a troll, and the best way to beat a troll is to ignore it. The violent protesters are even dumber since they just smear themselves and give the guy the attention that he wants.

violent protesters for the most part never care about the issue at hand, and just play to de-legitimize the issue at hand; this is most evident during the BLM protests where you'll have thousands of peaceful protesters, who are then joined by a dozen anarchists and the right and the media only focus on the bad guys... painting all the protesters in a bad light for ratings

Subwoofer7

almost 8 years

[img]https://i.redd.it/xhgfpr528rdy.jpg [/img]

Look at this crybaby.

Subwoofer7

almost 8 years

The Berkeley protest were completely peaceful until a couple dozen masked "ANTIFA" members show up. For some reason people haven't realized that Milo is a troll, and the best way to beat a troll is to ignore it. The violent protesters are even dumber since they just smear themselves and give the guy the attention that he wants.

MeetTerry

almost 8 years

YHWH says

lmfao

the owner of that for-rent limousine was an immigrant who's now $50k down

MeetTerry

almost 8 years

thecolonel says

the majority were trying to shut his thing down though. do you support shutting his thing down?

Berkeley used to have protests for free speech

colleges should host all speakers, regardless of what they have to say

hate speech isnt a thing.

MeetTerry

almost 8 years

projectmatt says

but I do support an angry, active protest against a man who might put minority students at risk

if you can't handle a gay provocateur jew, you have issues

how does he put students at risk? cause he makes fun of feminism and BLM?

his entire speech for Berkeley was about how cultural appropriation isn't an issue.

thecolonel

almost 8 years

projectmatt says

describe says

Protests like that only serve to push people who are in the middle closer to the new right.

This is only if you assume that the majority of the protestors are violent, which is not true in any way.

the majority were trying to shut his thing down though. do you support shutting his thing down?

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I think putting people in immediate danger is ONE situation where it would be worth interrupting, but in general, I don't think the type of protest that encourages people to behave this way is a good type of protest.

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describe says

Protests like that only serve to push people who are in the middle closer to the new right.

Well more along the lines of making the chasm more extreme, on both sides. In arguments I tend to find that obnoxiousness only ever encourages people to be extremist. As in, many people will get pushed further to the side they're already on, and anyone who feels attacked by the other side is likely to cling more stubbornly to their prior views rather than less, at least in the near future.

If students were in immediate danger I think it's potentially an exception where it might be OK to speak up and try to interrupt it, or at least be heard (though the latter isn't so much an exception), but I don't know the actual situation.

thecolonel

almost 8 years

What are your fears of Trump's administration which justify becoming hostile to Milo people?

projectmatt

almost 8 years

describe says

Protests like that only serve to push people who are in the middle closer to the new right.

This is only if you assume that the majority of the protestors are violent, which is not true in any way.

projectmatt

almost 8 years

I don't support physical acts of violence, but I get frustrated when the very real reasons to protest against Milo/Trump's dangerous rhetoric are disregarded as nothing because of protestors that turn bad/violent, which is my point.

In other words, the OP of this thread writes off the fears of Trump's administration by talking about violent protests, which is irrational.

thecolonel

almost 8 years

Milo is a threat to student safety. His ideas are dangerous. We suppressed violence with violence.

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Protests like that only serve to push people who are in the middle closer to the new right.

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Harassing students is terrible and I was literally messaged on discord by someone saying they expected me to support it because they viewed me as an "extreme leftist" and like, protest as loudly as you want if the person is saying things that cause immediate danger to others, yes, but in general, stifling discussion with physical acts that can cause harm to others seems to be a different thing entirely

and ok, my bad. I was assuming that the violent ones were the topic of discussion and eliding those two things.

I don't think all protestors are stupid.

I think these particular protests became horrible and violent and I don't see how anyone does or could ever support the resulting chaos.

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projectmatt says

I don't support pepper spraying students but I do support an angry, active protest against a man who might put minority students at risk.

and your angry active protest was actually a riot that put all the other students at risk

projectmatt

almost 8 years

I don't support pepper spraying students but I do support an angry, active protest against a man who might put minority students at risk. My issue with this stuff is that the moments when protestors become violent suddenly become conflated with "all protestors are stupid" or "Trump/Milo aren't bad because these protestors are bad", which is a silly thing

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projectmatt says

also I am going to say this: milo has a reputation for targeting specific students during his speeches at school, and putting them at risk. free speech is protected, but that doesn't mean people need to react to your speech nicely. it means they can protest as loudly as they want.

not gonna get into the property damage aspect of it because that's another topic, but being mad at a protest against a man who harassed students is funny

protesting loudly and physical violence are two entirely different things, but admittedly i'm being a huge ignoramus because I'm lazy and don't know where to find this information for myself

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projectmatt says

but being mad at a protest against a man who harassed students is funny

lol the protesters pepper sprayed the students who were there to listen to the lecture do u rly support that

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what the fck is a race clown

edit: oh more posts came ok

ISamEI

almost 8 years

elephantasm says

these protests are awful, and I don't see anyone supporting them? what's going on I'm so confused

where am I supposed to hear this stuff except places like this where everyone's expected to already know it

They are masked anarchists.
There are protesters, and then there are those guys. They hijack events at places like Berkeley.
Hope they will be accosted and identified so we actually know what's up with them. It has a whiff of conspiracy.

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