Comp match problem

YHWHover 9 years ago

Multiple accounts associated with a single IP address can enter the comp .

This is bad, because users who can use 2 accounts have a twice as likely chance of winning. If users use 3 accounts, 5 accounts, whatever, then it just becomes a challenge to see who can play the most games with the most alts, because even a mediocre player can win 80% of their games based on sheer odds.

Particularly malicious users can use alts to gamethrow (subtly) against other users.

I suggest remedying the issue in 3 ways:

  • Increase the score required to join the comp matches from 1500 to 3000. This makes it more annoying for runners to grind points on alts to enter the comp. It also necessitates a higher level of play / more experience to enter comp matches, which makes games better for everyone. (~50 wins vs ~25 wins)
  • When a user enters comp, store all IPs associated with that username in a DB for that round. If a different account tries to use a registered IP to enter / play in the comp matches, require a manual whitelisting of said username by a moderator / admin. This should be easy to program in because users must manually join every new comp game anyway, and is invisible to players (unless they live together).
  • Block TOR addresses, VPNs, and IP addresses with open proxies from joining or playing in comp games. This prevents not only cheaters, but ban evaders from messing things up as well. If someone lives in North Korean and needs a VPN, again, they could petition a mod/admin to override the blanket ban and whitelist their username for VPN/proxy use. This would also be easy to implement only-for-comp matches (see suggestion #2.)

As a little experiment, I tried using 3 accounts to enter the same comp game from the same IP address. Surprisingly, it worked. I could see this having valid applications in unranked games or even ranked matches (siblings, roommates, mechanics testing, etc) but there should be a higher standard for goldheart games.

Lucid this is something that should not take you more than 20 or 30 minutes to program and will improve the game for everyone. Even a 13 year old kid with only the most rudimentary shell script knowledge could spend a lazy Saturday implementing these improvements.

jukeover 9 years ago
what accounts did you test with? Gritt can check if they're whitelisted
YHWHover 9 years ago
Gritt
they already need to be whitelisted in order to join the same game
YHWH
As a little experiment, I tried using 3 accounts to enter the same comp game from the same IP address. Surprisingly, it worked.
my experience > your "high"deas
deleteddeletedover 9 years ago
they already need to be whitelisted in order to join the same game
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deleteddeletedover 9 years ago
sweetnkind
This needs to be condensed down into a paragraph max if you want lucid to read it
Tweets are better
jukeover 9 years ago
LazyYami
Comp should be 3k+ score to begin w/, too many people join comp games barely understanding how classic mafia works.
Based on your sound reasoning, I would suggest a minimum score of 31,653 to ensure even more trash players are removed from comp.

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YHWHover 9 years ago
Bump, Lucid please notice me senpai
Huntover 9 years ago
Great idea man. We should stop people from multiaccounting. Very unfair.
deleteddeletedover 9 years ago
Well, I was thinking that it would've been 2 separate whitelists but now that I think about it there's no reason for that
deleteddeletedover 9 years ago
whitelisting already appears as a mod action
deleteddeletedover 9 years ago
the whitelisting should appear as a moderator action if this were to be implemented imo
xxeroxover 9 years ago
My own idea was to close the round for registering to it after 5 days.
deleteddeletedover 9 years ago
This needs to be condensed down into a paragraph max if you want lucid to read it
AsbelLhantover 9 years ago
Go [REDACTED] yourself
Heckover 9 years ago
tl;dr but signed petition anyway
deleteddeletedover 9 years ago
Comp should be 3k+ score to begin w/, too many people join comp games barely understanding how classic mafia works.
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AtheneWinsover 9 years ago
Great