the fact that you think Trump is actually going to round up Muslims or pursue any of the racist remarks he made on the campaign trail just goes to show how blinded you have been by liberal logic. watch Obama's most recent interview with Trevor Noah. the president doesn't automatically have unlimited power and authority. he commands at the respect of many, many federal agencies. yes, he can put people in place that will support his agenda, but the whole of the federal government does not simply become fascist. there's a lot of legal paperwork in place that prevents fascist takeovers.

and you are wrong about the Left not conjuring illusions. their illusion is much more subversive, such that you have yet to perceive its falsity. i am trying my best to show you how exactly their smoke and mirrors operate.

there is a reason the media is only talking about the Russian threat and not the content of what that threat revealed. there is a reason Obama himself dismisses the Podesta leaks as being unimportant. there is clear intent to supplant our democracy within those leaks. the Democratic Party, via the DNC and its affiliated donors, worked as best it could to force Clinton as the only potential candidate. they went so far as to make the mistake of propping up Trump as the candidate they wanted their media outlets to focus on. their greed and ego have become their own undoing.

Forrest says

going onto an eHarmony equivalent of an IQ test site doesn't count

Probably not, but the two proctored IQ tests I've taken do.

I have a higher IQ than you and I'm smarter than you and Orly put together, and both of your opinions are wrong at the same time, even if they disagree with each other, you fat idiot.

So Tatami, to address your first point, a war with Russia would involve renewing proxy conflicts a la Syria en masse. Iran is a key player in this. Russia has strong ties to the current Iranian regime, and Clinton n co know this.

the Clinton camp also signed off on giving uranium to Russia. again, no chance of a nuclear conflict directly btwn US / Russia. but Clintons did want to stomp on Russia. they wanted to make them into an enemy and repossess Middle Eastern states that have gone to the Eastern side (CHN/RUS).

you have a lot of informed opinions about globalism, but you have fallen into the same college liberal mindset that i had for a very long time. you are making a very large assumption when you say we were on a good track. you dont realize what the "keepers of the status quo" have been up to.

you dont realize that Pizzagate is real. you dont realize that they want muslim terrorism within Europe, so they can have an excuse to harass the middle east once more. the so-called "New World Order" has already been around for a while, in the form of neoliberalism's Washington Consensus, the post-Cold War military industrial complex political ideology.

going onto an eHarmony equivalent of an IQ test site doesn't count

Forrest says

if you don't go to an ivy league tier school then your opinion isn't credible

120+ IQ counts too

if you don't go to an ivy league tier school then your opinion isn't credible

Forrest says

you missed my point.

It was a bad point.

you missed my point.

Forrest says

is the world 'scary'?

Why, yes! Everyone dies slowly in varying degrees of abject horror and love is just a promise that someone will die first and hurt the other one.

Did you just now figure this out?

I literally just now after reading this thread messaged my high school civics teacher on facebook and thanked her for taking the time to teach us how to recognize sources.

generalized blanketed fear-monger statements are my anti-fetish

scary as compared to what? what other time on this planet has the world been not 'scary'? what reaction are you trying to incite by saying that? how are you exactly qualified to speak on the security outlook of the planet when you've been on it for less than 20 years and most likely haven't done any in-depth research or hands-on studies of past political climates?

is the world 'scary'?

The Ret.arded State of Orly's Mind

I agree that the world is a scary place right now, and I agree that the inching surveillance is deeply disturbing, but the threat to the current global order isn't Hillary Clinton and John Podesta. They represent the keepers of the status quo, and that really wasn't the worst thing in the world when we were on a really good track.

The threat to the global order is in the Trumps and the Putins. It's in the authoritarianism, it's in the fearmongering, it's in the retreat from globalism that they represent.

Hillary Clinton and John Podesta don't want to build Muslim registries and round up illegal immigrants in the name of "protecting America". Hillary Clinton and John Podesta don't want to dismantle NATO (the key pin keeping American unilateralism, and with it almost complete world peace, together). Hillary Clinton and John Podesta don't want to invade Iran without good reason. Hillary Clinton and John Podesta don't try ruin relations with China for the sake of popularity, making the whole country poorer in the process. Hillary Clinton tried to make a deal that made the whole country richer before being forced back on it by counterproductive American isolationist sentiment. Hillary Clinton and John Podesta just want the world to continue course with them and their friends as the progressive architects.

They're not conjuring up illusions of the enemies of the white worker-the Chinese laborer, the Muslim intruder, the Mexican parasite. The only specter they conjured up is "Russia is trying to get Trump elected" which is completely true.

You and half of America got fed up with the global elite for existing without you in it, and that's justified, but the alternative they're choosing is fascism, plain and simple.

Orly says

he's talking about the obama iran deal, by the way. which hillary strongly supports. here's hillary's major campaign manager basically saying, yeah, it's going to cause war, and that's why we like it publicly.

If he and Hillary were plotting a nuclear war with Iran as the centerpiece I'm pretty sure that there would be a lot more to it than a sarcastic "Yup" to a pollster friend in reply to a wacko quote from some random Republican on his way out of office.

The New World Order is coming, and the only person being told electronically is a random pollster friend in Alabama, who is eagerly awaiting nuclear war together with Podesta and Soros, while he, his wife, and 4 children wait for the bombs to drop on their head.

There is no world in which John Podesta thinks that the Iran deal is analogous to giving Czechoslovakia to Hitler. There's no world where any rational person, not just trying to fearmonger for votes, thinks that these are analogous.

Middle Eastern adventurism, yes, there's definite corporate interest. See: Halliburton.

Full blown war with Russia with a 50% chance or better of going nuclear: No.

Arms companies like small wars, arms companies like saber rattling and fear, arms companies do not want the world to literally end where they have the most paper on a nuclear cinder.

Hibiki says

the world is a pretty dark place right now

the big brother stuff is scary, i agree. but the truth is that this has been the history of human relations for a very, very long time. we did much worse to each other before the industrial revolution, after all.

the difference is now the public is being armed with knowledge that the elites do not want us to possess. the internet has allowed us to share information in ways never thought possible before. they werent ready for the digital age, and now they're panicking.

think of the movie spotlight. that's about to happen for the political world. as long as we retain the knowledge and spread it, the pillars of iniquity shall eventually be toppled.

Tatami says

but that is the last thing anyone wants, Dem, Rep, society's elite, whatever.

except the global banking elite DO want war.

watch Lord of War, for a hollywood example.

these people literally treat human lives like their food. they do not think like we do. they do not behave or live like we do. they literally consider themselves gods among men.

https://vid.me/4wZ5 - Who is George Soros?

another good example for you to look at. the global elite are not who you think they are.

the world is a pretty dark place right now

when i say "they" i didnt mean the dems at large.

i consider myself a dem, and obviously we dont want to go to war.

the problem is that there are major financial contributors to the clinton campaign that are literal warmongering companies. Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Northrop Grumman, BAE Systems... the fkn Saudi Arabian gov't, just to name a few.

General Electric and GM are not technically war profiteers, but they also contribute massive projects to US war interests...

the list goes on.

podesta and the people he support are the same people who short developing state's currencies if they dont like the way they are going, effectively shutting down the financial markets of 3rd world countries.

read: Confessions of an Economic Hitman

as for the middle east conflict:



he's talking about the obama iran deal, by the way. which hillary strongly supports. here's hillary's major campaign manager basically saying, yeah, it's going to cause war, and that's why we like it publicly.

Orly says

the Dems were likely passing this bill with the thought of Clinton taking over the white house. then they could establish a nice progressive narrative for why we had to go to war with Russia.

The Dems wanted war with Russia.

Brother Orly you continue your spiral off the deep end, and you can chalk that up to me being a sheep if you want, but that is the last thing anyone wants, Dem, Rep, society's elite, whatever.

harodihg says

are you saying that I'm a hummingbird with toes?

HOLD UP HERE I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT U ARENT A HUMMINGBIRD

Orly says

PoorGPUEfficiency says

I'm not sure if you get it Orly, but the sarcastic comments are meant to illustrate the point that almost everyone does not care at all.

if i reach only one person and wake them up to the horrors of what is really going on, then i have done my job.

and you are a fool to think remaining ignorant is a viable solution. you will perish with that mentality, though may god bless you otherwise.

srs tho i dont get it/why spend ur time on this ;__;

PoorGPUEfficiency says

I'm not sure if you get it Orly, but the sarcastic comments are meant to illustrate the point that almost everyone does not care at all.

if i reach only one person and wake them up to the horrors of what is really going on, then i have done my job.

and you are a fool to think remaining ignorant is a viable solution. you will perish with that mentality, though may god bless you otherwise.

I'm not sure if you get it Orly, but the sarcastic comments are meant to illustrate the point that almost everyone does not care at all.