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Forum Mafia 19: Forbidden Actions

papuito
about 8 years

Welcome to Forum Mafia 19: Forbidden Actions!

Game is over. Ended on Day 5

Mafia wins! This game was ranked.

The mastermind's behind this game are Gerry, Mori and myself.

The game will be played like any other Forum Mafia game, with one twist! Every player will be given an action pregame. If the action they are given is performed, they will be Killed from the game, with their forbidden action being shown afterward. More information will be given under Rules.

I. The Schedule:

72 Hour Days. 24 Hour Nights

  • If you don't submit actions by the deadline I will consider you taking no action.

II. The Set Up:

  • There is no "possible roles list". I promise not to get too crazy.

  • Mafia will have Day chat. And will know each other's Forbidden Actions

  • You will get an Alignment PM. Town or Mafia and your alignment will not change.

Sample Role PM:

Welcome to Forum Mafia 19, papuito!

Your role is Vanilla Townie, you are sided with the Town.

Your only power in this game is your voice and your vote. Good luck.

Your forbidden action is: Using pictures or gifs in any of your posts

YOU CANNOT SHARE THIS FORBIDDEN ACTION WITH ANYONE

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Mafia Sample:

Welcome to Forum Mafia 19, papuito!

Your role is Mafia Goon, you are sided with the Mafia.

You are partners with (Player name) and (Player name). You share a day talk here (url here).

Your forbidden action is: Using pictures or gifs in any of your posts

YOU CAN ONLY SHARE YOUR FORBIDDEN ACTION WITH MAFIA MEMBERS.

Each night, one of you or your partners may perform the factional kill. You may kill and perform your role action during the same night.

You win if at least one member of your group is alive and all other players are dead (or if nothing can prevent the same)

III. The Rules:

Forum Mafia 19 Rules:

http://pastebin.com/kEUDw4T9 (The only modification is that mafia may kill and perform role action in the same night. Only 1 mafia member commits the kill.)

As explained earlier, there will be forbidden actions. YOU CANNOT SHARE YOUR FORBIDDEN ACTION. If found to, you will be mod killed. If you commit the forbidden action, you will be killed from the game. You may speculate forbidden actions of others within the game. If asked whether your forbidden action is something, you cannot confirm or deny. You can also not soft or hint as to what your forbidden action is.

We also will be strict about ISP and replacements. If you think for any reason you MAY have to be replaced, do not sign up. We also reserve the right to deny anyone from joining, if we believe you will troll, isp, sub.

IV. Votes:

  • Votes must be made in the format Vote: Playername. Bolding is done using the tags [b][/b].

  • I will not take any other type of vote. If I can't tell who you're voting, I won't take it.

MOD NOTE Mori will be giving out a token prize to a player from each alignment who the hosts determined played best.

V. Game Log:

XXNicoleXX: Vanilla Townie. Lynched Day 1.

Her forbidden action: Town NLing any day.

Damned: Vanilla Townie. Killed Night 1.

His forbidden action: Double Posting and editing post.

yoyo200900: Vanilla Townie. Lynched Day 2

His forbidden action: Any Day lasting less than 36 hours.

VI. Subs:

yoyo200900 subs in for Ideal

denial
about 8 years
ah sorry, i read that wrong. only experience i've had with mist is one maf game where they spent the whole day asking mech questions about the game as scum
Transcend
about 8 years
Actually she's more of a tryhard as scum.
denial
about 8 years
? why should i think you're town mist? you prefaced saying you were busy being the reason you weren't able to make really any good reads on d1 but you're being active now trying to lynch me for what you deem "shady"

matt just said you practically "tryhard" in town games: seems like you're able to be active now and you're not really tryharding. you pushed off one thing and have kept on it rather than reread/quoting my old stuff in order to help prove your point or actually see whether i could be town

to me it seems like you get lynched today or tomorrow now
deletedabout 8 years
this freakin' game.
deletedabout 8 years

denial says

eh, actually trying to get one last town lynched on a "reasonable" fos is probably the best you can do for your partners at this point anyways. so i guess i'll just make this between us for today. i kinda wanted kassidy before though

Vote: Babylonia


lmao
citeopmI
about 8 years

Transcend says

Guys can someone teach me how to sleep


idk but while ur trying to tear urself away from epicmafia to sleep i'll be trying to tear myself away from that and VLR to study which i was supposed to do about an hour ago
citeopmI
about 8 years

denial says

sincerely, lets say this. if i was mafia, i wouldn't have instantly responded in this thread to say "you're modkilled"

if i really thought i had a chance of getting you killed, i'd have PMed somebody about it. then if i got you killed i could laugh in your face that i was maf and had them blow you up. u probably know me well enough to know that i'd use that option if was maf, rather than outright saying "modkilled" in reaction to you

also mist, from what i find you're being scumread. so if i get lynched and flip town, you get to squirm tomorrow. good luck




i understand that logic, I just don't agree with it. Your posts pinged me DESPITE it.

i think i need to reread too re:yoyo but no it's NOT the same thing. Maybe my read isn't as easy to explain as i thought but I DID think your posts were trying to push a ML on town and my memory is different from what you just said happened.


Babylonia says


denial says

the read got stronger from something that i didn't have to even say if my agenda was to get you actually modkilled

so why did your read get stronger? because you thought i actually wanted you to die, correct?

aka you are dumb


Hate to seem like I have confbias (I might) but this is reading scum to me too. Second opinions?


my gut says it's scum but it doesn't really look like trying to towntell when i reread it so i think it's NAI.
denial
about 8 years
eh, actually trying to get one last town lynched on a "reasonable" fos is probably the best you can do for your partners at this point anyways. so i guess i'll just make this between us for today. i kinda wanted kassidy before though

Vote: Babylonia
Transcend
about 8 years
Guys can someone teach me how to sleep
deletedabout 8 years
Ooooo I'm so scared.
denial
about 8 years
sincerely, lets say this. if i was mafia, i wouldn't have instantly responded in this thread to say "you're modkilled"

if i really thought i had a chance of getting you killed, i'd have PMed somebody about it. then if i got you killed i could laugh in your face that i was maf and had them blow you up. u probably know me well enough to know that i'd use that option if was maf, rather than outright saying "modkilled" in reaction to you

also mist, from what i find you're being scumread. so if i get lynched and flip town, you get to squirm tomorrow. good luck
Transcend
about 8 years
will skim your isos later nat

unvote

if i don't sleep i'm f***ed.
deletedabout 8 years

denial says

the read got stronger from something that i didn't have to even say if my agenda was to get you actually modkilled

so why did your read get stronger? because you thought i actually wanted you to die, correct?

aka you are dumb


Hate to seem like I have confbias (I might) but this is reading scum to me too. Second opinions?
yoyo200900
about 8 years

citeopmI says


The inactivity in and of itself isn't the scumtell. It's that after being absent so long you were immediately invested in the game and pushing on reads, which seems more likely to come from scum than town.



i haven't pushed on anyone all game. i haven't even voted anyone. there is a difference between me pushing on someone and me outing a read on someone. even if i had, i don't think that it would be a scummy thing to do.


citeopmI says

No I don't. I didn't assume my read was valid or try to pretend I could call 3 scum at once. I was trying to engage you, but I felt like you just named 3 people and started trying to get them lynched. There's a difference. How did I not have time to FOS you? If reads aren't enough, what is?



you have said that you fos me for multiple reasons, one of which is that i was too quick to find reads. but you have formed a quick read too, on me. i can't see why you would fos me for something that you are doing yourself.


citeopmI says


Your reads were pre-formed and made use of sources to back them up which I think a lot of players would be more likely to do as scum.



my reads were not pre-formed. i came into the game with grounded theory. i found three players that had scumtold and outed my reads. i used sources but only after my reasoning was challenged. i had never seen the sources that i was using, but had heard of the methods previously, and found the sources after i needed to.
denial
about 8 years
the read got stronger from something that i didn't have to even say if my agenda was to get you actually modkilled

so why did your read get stronger? because you thought i actually wanted you to die, correct?

aka you are dumb
citeopmI
about 8 years
Like if you're town and I'm town you'll probably have to convince me at some point. And I knew you weren't hardclaiming scum and you were at least pretending it was a joke, and even if you thought I didn't realize that, why wouldn't you say that directly to me?
deletedabout 8 years

denial says

edit: i should mention, like i said i don't think she necessarily did break a rule and should die for it, but i was poking fun at her. if she actually died, i would laugh at her for making a dumb mistake


BACKTRACKING REEEE
citeopmI
about 8 years
Denial you know i'm not impossible to reason with so why are you acting like my read on you is irrelevant and simultaneously not considering the possibility that I can be scum for it?
citeopmI
about 8 years

denial says

oops i dug myself in deeper

probably because its superficial stuff to push on; in fact both times i've been pushed as scum were when i made "jokes"

do you guys actually think before you try to push on that sh!t? why would I come out publicly and tell mods to kill impoetic when I could've done so asking in a PM

impoetic is actually dumb and thinks i'm hardclaiming scum by saying she should be dying in public because she broke a rule

you probably aren't so dumb

edit: i should mention, like i said i don't think she necessarily did break a rule and should die for it, but i was poking fun at her. if she actually died, i would laugh at her for making a dumb mistake


Why are you brushing me off as dumb like that? I didn't think you HARDCLAIMED scum. The read didn't START there, it just got stronger.
citeopmI
about 8 years



citeopmI says


Ideal towntold more than you did and I know ideal ates as scum. Your reaction is atrocious play no matter what you are and frustrating to read.



i don't understand what you are talking about. why are you bringing up ideal's play? my reaction to what is atrocious play? do you really think that being frustrating to read is indicative of me being aligned with the mafia?




No. I think being incomprehensible makes you more likely to be pushing a ML, though.

The benefit in showing uncertainty is in telling the truth which is the easiest way I know of to try to discern alignment and make it clear as town. Obviously you don't always have to.
citeopmI
about 8 years

yoyo200900 says


citeopmI says

I think OMGUS is closer to a towntell in normal mafia games


it's so easy to do as mafia that there's no way you should think that

citeopmI says


and I can't read well in forum mafia but I think you're scum with the way you entered after such a delay.


there was a delay between the time that i was subbed in and the time i was able to post. i posted as soon as i was able.


The inactivity in and of itself isn't the scumtell. It's that after being absent so long you were immediately invested in the game and pushing on reads, which seems more likely to come from scum than town.




citeopmI says


It looks to me like you're faking certainty without any real scumhunting. You made two posts that tried to explain reads but I don't think it's enough to really believe in those.


in the end, there will never be much certainty. but ostensibly lacking certainty leads to a show of weakness. how can you expect the people that i fos to have an opportunity to react to my fos if i do not seem certain about it? where would the benefit be in acting as though i am uncertain? you have not been given many opportunities to fos me yet you seem as certain as i do with my reads.


No I don't. I didn't assume my read was valid or try to pretend I could call 3 scum at once. I was trying to engage you, but I felt like you just named 3 people and started trying to get them lynched. There's a difference. How did I not have time to FOS you? If reads aren't enough, what is?

Your reads were pre-formed and made use of sources to back them up which I think a lot of players would be more likely to do as scum.
denial
about 8 years
oops i dug myself in deeper

probably because its superficial stuff to push on; in fact both times i've been pushed as scum were when i made "jokes"

do you guys actually think before you try to push on that sh!t? why would I come out publicly and tell mods to kill impoetic when I could've done so asking in a PM

impoetic is actually dumb and thinks i'm hardclaiming scum by saying she should be dying in public because she broke a rule

you probably aren't so dumb

edit: i should mention, like i said i don't think she necessarily did break a rule and should die for it, but i was poking fun at her. if she actually died, i would laugh at her for making a dumb mistake
yoyo200900
about 8 years

citeopmI says

yoyo is a jerkface who swapped out 1 of my mild TRs for another mild TR to go with a stupid dumbjerk team idea

JUST THOUGHT I'D POINT THAT OUT


you shouldn't be scumreading me for disagreeing with you ;)
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denial says

btw if u cared soda, i think hes town because hes likely some kind of investigative role based on interactions of retti/n1ed talking. this all accounts to nothing if they're both maf together though

btw, i don't actually want impoetic to die, i just found it really funny that she practically slipped and has the possibility OF dying. pretty much, if her forbidden action wasn't known, i don't think the statement would kill her. i don't even think itll really kill her now, but itd be funny enough to see

"As a standalone statement it's meaningless. There are plenty of reasons to be afraid of voting."

just gonna point out again its not a standalone statement. its clearly impoetic thinking it doesn't matter what she generally says about her forbidden action because himiko literally outted it. if impoetics forbidden action wasnt outted, she would not say "im too scared to change my vote". she would look at the voting logs herself and check


You're just digging yourself deeper.

Transcend says

This is your townplay: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=67015&user_select=27489

A lot more passive than your play right now. You're so much more chill and "w/e" with lynches while when you're scum you're so much more aggressive and dominating as seen in your Perish game. I feel a sense of that right now. I mean feel free to counter this meta because being meta'd sucks and if you want to prove me wrong I'm more than willing to allow that.


And this is my scumplay

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=66605
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=66498

It's almost as if the way I approach games isn't wholly dependent on my alignment.
citeopmI
about 8 years

Transcend says

I'm impossible to meta

I agree I've been pretty tame this game

IIRC last game when I was scum I exploded the entire time

In the Perish game, as you know I exploded the entire game.

My approach to the game is different every time and as any alignment.


See? In my experience really large changes in play usually don't depend on alignment unless it's coming from a relatively inexperienced player -- so not natalie.