Back to Epicmafia

Recent Developements

about 8 years

Hello everyone. I'm sure I don't need to explain why I'm making a thread now. As everyone can tell, this has been my second de-modding in two days, and I think it's reasonable I have a few complaints about this.

I have been passive about most of this affair (aside obvious from the initial comment I made which seems to have sparked this whole mess). I believe I have been more than courteous to both error and Bebop in our efforts to solve what had happened. So while I'm waiting for a response from Bebop with some much needed explanation, I'm going to talk about some things publicly.

I'd like to, first of all, talk about responsibilities of a sandbox mod. There are very little. I think those who know me know that I expect little of s̶i̶t̶e̶ lobby mods. They have little power and there is not much they need to do. They watch out for banned users, bypassing users, people spamming X-Rated, and up until more recently, keeping tabs on HC. I was modded just before the leniency on HC, so I never had to deal with many cases of punishing for it. A few things I did do as a mod include banning spam accounts, chat-banning people who requested it, trying to answer questions for confused users, and writing a few report verdicts.

Doing reports for a Sandbox mod is very silly. There are two possibilities: either we cannot close the reports or I never learned how to. Giving users actual violations is out the window as far as I can tell. It ends up that Bebop is the one who ends up writing the verdicts and closing reports. This is because not only can he actually close the reports, he can hand out violations and see previous violations (which is something else I didn't mention sandbox mods cannot do). What THIS ends up meaning is that Bebop does all the sandbox reports. Is this a lot of work? Not really. Half the sandbox reports are for HC which a sandbox mod couldn't take care of, a small percentage are banned users which sandbox mods also can't take care of, and the remaining ones are instant close reports like reports for game-throwing or joke reports (both of which we really can't do anything about since we can't close them).

Next I'd like to talk about the Skype conversation that I had with Bebop on the morning that I was first de-modded (by error). In particular, I'd like to contrast a few statements.

From Bebops recent ruling in the error thread:

And from the Skype conversation:

I think my confusion is immediately clear. Another thing that I didn't bring up earlier because I was trying to get this situation to blow over was the fact that Bebop was trying to make it seem like the wrong I did error was on equal gravity of what he did to me. My making a joke in chat, I think, was not comparable to error's overreaction.

I would like to make it clear, however, I hold no ill will to error as he has apologized to me and he (I hope) had no sway over Bebops recent choices. I am a little suprised that he chose to so quickly forgive error based on what he says is "him being a very good mod," to which I ask on what grounds? Banning people from chat for HC? That's the only thing I've really noticed.

(Notice how in this thread Bebop says error was helping another user. The users in question was MeetTerry and he was explaining to MeetTerry why f*g was not as heavily moderated in chat anymore, a fact of which Terry was aware of because of someone explaining it the day before, I'm pretty sure.)

almost 8 years
sl0nderman has asked that I bump this.
deletedabout 8 years
r u mad bro? xD
about 8 years

sl0nderman says

I am a little suprised that he chose to so quickly forgive error based on what he says is "him being a very good mod," to which I ask on what grounds? Banning people from chat for HC? That's the only thing I've really noticed.


This is going to sound like controversy and excuses, I'd like to expand on this for a bit. Bebop keeps talking about how much error has done and how the other mods did nothing. The truth is that error jumped on the chance to chat-ban people (almost gleefully) , his reactions tended to be so fast to things like HC that no other mod had a chance to do anything. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but clearly this is something Bebop didn't notice or is choosing to overlook. Before you claim that the other mods didn't do anything, know that error took every opportunity.
about 8 years
Anyone but Bebop.

It's so sad all of you had to wait until something huge like this happened to realize that Bebop is an awful owner, he's been doing stuff like this for ages but you all turned a blind eye to it but now that it is someone you like being abused by the clique, you decide to pay attention and care about this.

Bebop NEEDS to relinquish ownership of this lobby because he is not good.
about 8 years
I wake up to ww3
about 8 years

izzy says

quick someone email lucid


Hello >: ]
about 8 years

izzy says

quick someone email lucid

about 8 years

sl0nderman says


Ashe says


Bebop says


Mac says

Bebop: Im gonna listen to the community, if enough ppl say they want error de modded ill de mod him.

70% of the community: Ya

Bebop: Actually lol imma unsticky the rules, change them, keep error in power, and de mod everyone who did nothing wrong. This won't please everyone but it pleases me and keeps my friend in power lol!

Error: Lol sorry! I was high on painkillers from a week ago lolol!


i didn't unsticky the rules or change any of them


Demod error, sl0nder did more than him, and wasn't abusing his powers in any way.




you really love that gif lately


It's the only way to say my voice, without really being like JamalMarley
about 8 years

Bigpock says

Just got placed in Plat after going 6-4 placements @ 2530 ELO lol. I won my first 4 in a row and then meh.. I wanted 7-3 but kids are shitties


I don't know anything abt OW ranked but that sounds decent for placements.
about 8 years

Ashe says


Bebop says


Mac says

Bebop: Im gonna listen to the community, if enough ppl say they want error de modded ill de mod him.

70% of the community: Ya

Bebop: Actually lol imma unsticky the rules, change them, keep error in power, and de mod everyone who did nothing wrong. This won't please everyone but it pleases me and keeps my friend in power lol!

Error: Lol sorry! I was high on painkillers from a week ago lolol!


i didn't unsticky the rules or change any of them


Demod error, sl0nder did more than him, and wasn't abusing his powers in any way.




you really love that gif lately
about 8 years

Bebop says


Mac says

Bebop: Im gonna listen to the community, if enough ppl say they want error de modded ill de mod him.

70% of the community: Ya

Bebop: Actually lol imma unsticky the rules, change them, keep error in power, and de mod everyone who did nothing wrong. This won't please everyone but it pleases me and keeps my friend in power lol!

Error: Lol sorry! I was high on painkillers from a week ago lolol!


i didn't unsticky the rules or change any of them


Demod error, sl0nder did more than him, and wasn't abusing his powers in any way.

deletedabout 8 years
quick someone email lucid
deletedabout 8 years

Bebop says


Mac says

Bebop: Im gonna listen to the community, if enough ppl say they want error de modded ill de mod him.

70% of the community: Ya

Bebop: Actually lol imma unsticky the rules, change them, keep error in power, and de mod everyone who did nothing wrong. This won't please everyone but it pleases me and keeps my friend in power lol!

Error: Lol sorry! I was high on painkillers from a week ago lolol!


i didn't unsticky the rules or change any of them


mostly a comic represenation of what happened
about 8 years

Mac says

Bebop: Im gonna listen to the community, if enough ppl say they want error de modded ill de mod him.

70% of the community: Ya

Bebop: Actually lol imma unsticky the rules, change them, keep error in power, and de mod everyone who did nothing wrong. This won't please everyone but it pleases me and keeps my friend in power lol!

Error: Lol sorry! I was high on painkillers from a week ago lolol!


i didn't unsticky the rules or change any of them
deletedabout 8 years
Bebop: Im gonna listen to the community, if enough ppl say they want error de modded ill de mod him.

70% of the community: Ya

Bebop: Actually lol imma unsticky the rules, change them, keep error in power, and de mod everyone who did nothing wrong. This won't please everyone but it pleases me and keeps my friend in power lol!

Error: Lol sorry! I was high on painkillers from a week ago lolol!
deletedabout 8 years
Just got placed in Plat after going 6-4 placements @ 2530 ELO lol. I won my first 4 in a row and then meh.. I wanted 7-3 but kids are shitties
deletedabout 8 years

sl0nderman says


Bigpock says

He was high on his pain meds post-op and demodded slenderman in a gay argument. Then the community pissed they pants, and olive bibty and slonderman were replaced by the gay tryharding kids jockying for the new mod position once they assumed error was being demodded. Grammer due 2 mid OW game


Did you win


It was quickplay but no i think we lost. Im doing my comp games now lol
deletedabout 8 years

Bebop says


bdog1321 says

i mean this just shows us once and for all that we have no power and no say regarding what goes on in sandbox, without going over the owner's head. a general sentiment of discontent was expressed and roundly ignored in favour of a solution devised by our owner, which he termed the "right thing" to do. this thread means nothing. my post here means nothing. nothing will happen, you have no say. that's how it is.


that's not true but feel free to believe it if you so desire


Well you ignored the rules you made and ignored the community soooooooooooo
deletedabout 8 years

Bigpock says

He was high on his pain meds post-op and demodded slenderman in a gay argument. Then the community pissed they pants, and olive bibty and slonderman were replaced by the gay tryharding kids jockying for the new mod position once they assumed error was being demodded. Grammer due 2 mid OW game


If he was high on pain meds a week after his wisdom teeth removal then he has a problem
deletedabout 8 years
Ya let's demod all the mods who didn't break A NO TOLERANCE RULE. This is a joke lmao
about 8 years

Bigpock says

He was high on his pain meds post-op and demodded slenderman in a gay argument. Then the community pissed they pants, and olive bibty and slonderman were replaced by the gay tryharding kids jockying for the new mod position once they assumed error was being demodded. Grammer due 2 mid OW game


Did you win
deletedabout 8 years
He was high on his pain meds post-op and demodded slenderman in a gay argument. Then the community pissed they pants, and olive bibty and slonderman were replaced by the gay tryharding kids jockying for the new mod position once they assumed error was being demodded. Grammer due 2 mid OW game
deletedabout 8 years

Edark says

Why do people dislike error? I havent seen him being rude in a long time.


https://epicmafia.com/topic/79558

the whole story
about 8 years
Why do people dislike error? I havent seen him being rude in a long time.
deletedabout 8 years

Edark says

oh lord whats going on


Everyone cried for about 15 hours to get error demodded so bebop demodded everyone but error lol