And the black communities aren't doing enough to stop this?
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If it becomes illegal and you know its illegal why keep drinking it? But the government has done some shady stuff, you can read how up on how the government introduced crack to the black communities.
well, nearly 85% of white people are killed by other white people in white communities, so your black on black statistics don't really matter.
also there are groups designed to preventing and stopping violence in black communities.
deletedover 8 years
[quote=Fam] No. People still feel their effects today. Even if they werent born into any of those, their parents did or their grandparents did. It has an impact on their lives. Who raised them? Or who DIDNT raise them? (if we talk about fatherlessness).
>There is more cops in lower income communities because lower income communities tend to do more crime. Yes. But then what about the inequitable treatment and how they enforced their laws n those areas?
No, this is a legitimate question. What do you think brought us to where we are today in the black community?
deletedover 8 years
Lol you're trying to get me to say something racist to just completely discredit me. A lot of things we do are caused by effects of the environment we are brought up in. I'd say a lot of the culture stemmed from being brought up in poor communities and this tends be crime havens regardless of race.
deletedover 8 years
[quote=pamda] The government needs to be fixed too i've said this but you can't shift blame 100% of the problems onto the government. Majority of those things you said are not around today and current generation blacks were not born into any of those to feel their effects. There is more cops in lower income communities because lower income communities tend to do more crime.
deletedover 8 years
So what caused the ''current culture of their communities''? or were they born that way?
I know everyone is talking at you right now, but look at what you're saying. It's illegal, so you have no excuse. What if black people are 80% of the Kool-Aid drinkers and white people are 20% of the Kool-Aid drinkers? I make it illegal to drink Kool-Aid. My policy has a disparate impact on the black community, and the legality of Kool-Aid drinking doesn't even need to come into play here. Now go look at Nixon's comments when he started the war on drugs. Look at the fact that crack cocaine sentences are 100x more harsh than powder cocaine sentences and look at the statistics about powder vs crack usage by race.
The focus of blm is the wrongful treatment of blacks by police force and the justice system treating them unfairly. They are still doing a crime do be put in these positions of the unfair treatment. They need to make equal if not greater efforts in correcting the current culture of their communities.
This is from the head of Nixon's domestic policy chief on the "War on Drugs" that they created: "You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities," Ehrlichman said. "We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."
deletedover 8 years
I'm from Canada and I'm a criminologist. I can still give my opinion on this because I didn't learn what I learned on twitter and the liberal media lol.
>How are these issues not being addressed properly? Who should address these issues? Black people can acknowledge their part ok. But what about the government?
If you want to go back to the source of the problem, we can start talking about slavery, then the integration difficulties black people faced in the black belt. Then the KKK. Then the ''ghettoism''. Then the war on drugs and how the law enforcement focused on urban areas, lower-income communities but also the inequitable treatment by the criminal justice system. Jim Crow laws brought many things. Who did all this?
deletedover 8 years
I'm all for the legalization for marijuana thats not the point. The point is its illegal and you can't make the excuse it should be when you are caught doing, because as it currently is now it isn't legal and you have full knowledge it is against the law.
deletedover 8 years
well hopefully that's changing with most states making it a civil offense, if those dads are smoking something stronger then \_O_/
is your argument atm that black people are doing absolutely nothing to fix their communities or something? lol
deletedover 8 years
Yes it does have a negative impact of these communities i'm not saying it doesn't, unfair prison sentences and excessive force to minorities needs to be fixed. But here's the thing they are still committing these crimes, the system isn't forcing them too.
You need to build up your homefront before you can make a true impact.
Dude you realize the whole history of marijuana prohibition is based off racism? and there's no reason for it to still be a banned substance when alcohol - a much more dangerous drug is completely legal
I'm asking a question here to answer yours. When 64% of the US population is white and 13% of the US population is black, but blacks and whites make up roughly the same amount of inmates, what might correlate with those statistics? You've mentioned drugs, abortions, crime, homicides, and fatherlessness. I'm agreeing with you, there is a correlation between some of these things. But a correlation doesn't prove causation. If you take a step back from any side of this issue and simply ask what the effects might be of one race or ethnicity being incarcerated at a rate far greater than another race or ethnicity, regardless of the reasons for the incarceration, it should be clear that this will have a negative impact on that race or ethnicity.
deletedover 8 years
> I have a child so i'm going to smoke an illegal narcotic that could get me arrested and makes it harder for me to get a stable job.
deletedover 8 years
Yes and this a sentence of a year which is hardly enough time to be absent from your childs life, yes its wrong they convicted more often then whites. But lets think of it this way if blacks know they will be put in jail for longer periods of times for other stuff, why would they choose to do it? There is a conscious choice being made to be put at risk to be the target of this.
