Epicmafia

over 8 years

expose says

dzanek admitted to shooting by process of elimination, and revealed to us his thought process before he made the shot. There was enough in-game context to support this claim, as expressed by several moderators.

I'm sorry that you disagree with what is considered "valid content". The content present in the first 30 seconds of that game is deemed sufficient enough to validate a substantial read on the players that had spoken.

It wasn't 30 seconds though, it was 30 seconds of mafia-time which is much more than real time. It was about ~10 seconds

Desiigner

over 8 years

vilden says

I say we ressurrect the case involving Practise, the amateur/pussified gunsmith, who GT a bunch by not gunning in red hearts. Was one hell of a case

I say we just demod expose they seem pretty incompetent at modding.

https://epicmafia.com/report/189032 Here she tried giving a note for an obvious case of GRS just because I had only played 4 games.

expose

over 8 years

dzanek admitted to shooting by process of elimination, and revealed to us his thought process before he made the shot. There was enough in-game context to support this claim, as expressed by several moderators.

I'm sorry that you disagree with what is considered "valid content". The content present in the first 30 seconds of that game is deemed sufficient enough to validate a substantial read on the players that had spoken.

Desiigner

over 8 years

I really can't see how you thought his "shot was based on PoE" when he said he was going to hipfire and in the original report filed on him he doesn't deny the hipfire but rather argues that he was playing to win. If his shot was actually via PoE he'd have used that defence himself in the original report.

vilden

over 8 years

I say we ressurrect the case involving Practise, the amateur/pussified gunsmith, who GT a bunch by not gunning in red hearts. Was one hell of a case

Desiigner

over 8 years

expose says

We've determined that dzandek's shot was based on PoE and not solely at random.

Hipfiring is shooting without reads. Since he shot based on PoE according to those who spoke at daystart, his shot is not deemed as hipfire.

Hipfiring does not mean shooting without PR claims, and hipfiring does not mean shooting before everyone has spoken.

I feel this issue has been thoroughly explained and the complaint satisfied. I'll leave this open for a bit before closing it.

1) Many things were left unaswered. Like for starters the fact that dzanek admitted the shot was random in https://epicmafia.com/topic/78528

2) Yeah hipfire doesn't necessarily mean shooting without PR claims, but when only 2 players had said enough valid content to be read then shooting randomly in a pool of 6 players is still hipfire

3) The only thing that was thoroughly explained was by me that there wasn't enough content (in the long post at the top of page 3 here) https://epicmafia.com/topic/78527?page=3

You literally ignored the fact that dzanek admitted he shot by luck and other points that I made such as "The gun shot being ~15 seconds into the game. This is far too early for it to not be a hipfire. There can't be any genuine thought process as he wouldn't be able to analyze content and gather reads that quickly."

hipfire thread cont.