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caroline vs Tiffiduliu vs dzanek

over 8 years

Dear caroline, You need some explaining to do with your actions.

In this game, Dzanek hipfired Hooker on D1 and got no violation by Ethereal -> https://epicmafia.com/report/189158

That is the same thing Tiffiduliu did in this thread but you gave Tiffiduliu a violation for hipfiring the Lawyer on D1. -> https://epicmafia.com/topic/78423

Remove Tiffiduliu's violation or grant dzanek1143 a violation for him hipfiring the mafia as town on D1.

What's it gonna be caroline?

who is right, Tiffiduliu, caroline, or dzanek

Who is right?
9
Demod caroline for bias moderation
6
Give dzanek a GT vio
1
Remove Tiffiduliu's GT vio
over 8 years
ethereal best mod
over 8 years

Betrayal says

Dumbtell, I am highly offended by your atrocious actions. You think that you're better than me? You think that I should take a chill pill? I am reporting you for Tier 2 harassment.


nice rebuttal 5/7 I must admit ur logic is too strong and I am forced to concede the point, ggwp
over 8 years

Dumbtell says

betrayal ur a nob
since dzanek clams he indeed shot randomly, he didn't aim to shoot mafai, and since a literal random shot d1 is on average bad for town, this could arguably amount to game throw
however, ur suggested revision to the rules is dum. this is an issue about interpretation of dzanek's actions rather than the meaning of the rules
also u care way too much about all this lmao take a chill pill


Dumbtell, I am highly offended by your atrocious actions. You think that you're better than me? You think that I should take a chill pill? I am reporting you for Tier 2 harassment.
over 8 years
betrayal ur a nob
since dzanek clams he indeed shot randomly, he didn't aim to shoot mafai, and since a literal random shot d1 is on average bad for town, this could arguably amount to game throw
however, ur suggested revision to the rules is dum. this is an issue about interpretation of dzanek's actions rather than the meaning of the rules
also u care way too much about all this lmao take a chill pill
over 8 years
demod caroline and make me a mod
over 8 years

caroline says


Betrayal says

When duty calls, Solace, there isn't enough time for sheriff to delay his shot in order to analyze the situation. When a serial killer shoots up a building, there is no time for the Cop to analyze the situation and come to a rational conclusion. He must act on his quick wits and quickly gun down the enemy. And that is exactly what Tiffiduliu did.


comparing epicmafia to irl is not valid. in epicmafia, you are scumhunting to find the serial killer. if a real life obvious serial killer is shooting up a building of course you will instantly gun him down. but you do not easily know who the killer is after a 2 minute night or a quick day start and do not come in here saying you do


I'm sorry for your gross misguided assumption that Epicmafia doesn't compare to IRL. I go through my day, minute by minute, comparing it to the riveting feeling of power that I get when I scum hunt in my games. Jesus, Caro.
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Betrayal says

When duty calls, Solace, there isn't enough time for sheriff to delay his shot in order to analyze the situation. When a serial killer shoots up a building, there is no time for the Cop to analyze the situation and come to a rational conclusion. He must act on his quick wits and quickly gun down the enemy. And that is exactly what Tiffiduliu did.


comparing epicmafia to irl is not valid. in epicmafia, you are scumhunting to find the serial killer. if a real life obvious serial killer is shooting up a building of course you will instantly gun him down. but you do not easily know who the killer is after a 2 minute night or a quick day start and do not come in here saying you do
over 8 years
Honestly, GTing should be given if the shot was based on grudge and the sheriff wanted a certain player to lose.

My shot was based on luck, I didn't have grudge on FooI. It could be proven that he also wanted me to shoot randomly the gun.

Moreover hipfiring should be assumed as trolling, not as GT.
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Betrayal says

When duty calls, Solace, there isn't enough time for sheriff to delay his shot in order to analyze the situation. When a serial killer shoots up a building, there is no time for the Cop to analyze the situation and come to a rational conclusion. He must act on his quick wits and quickly gun down the enemy. And that is exactly what Tiffiduliu did.


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betrayal still trolling me two years later
over 8 years
you didnt deserve the kudo, the HELL YEAH strat was the one who got the hooker shot, not you
over 8 years
I got violated enough by not receiving a kudo.
over 8 years
HELL YEAH
over 8 years

Betrayal says

When duty calls, Solace, there isn't enough time for sheriff to delay his shot in order to analyze the situation. When a serial killer shoots up a building, there is no time for the Cop to analyze the situation and come to a rational conclusion. He must act on his quick wits and quickly gun down the enemy. And that is exactly what Tiffiduliu did.


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over 8 years
When duty calls, Solace, there isn't enough time for sheriff to delay his shot in order to analyze the situation. When a serial killer shoots up a building, there is no time for the Cop to analyze the situation and come to a rational conclusion. He must act on his quick wits and quickly gun down the enemy. And that is exactly what Tiffiduliu did.
over 8 years

Solace says

In tiff's game, only one player said "alright" before the shot. I really don't think that is enough material to make an educated guess.


Tiffiduliu shot korean because he voted "no one". Tiffiduliu assumed that only mafia are quick to vote no one because they are eager to get to their mafia meeting at night and collaborate with their scum partners. That is why korean was shot, he was the 3rd person to No lynch on day one. That was the rationale behind Tiff's shot.
over 8 years
In tiff's game, only one player said "alright" before the shot. I really don't think that is enough material to make an educated guess.
over 8 years

Solace says

Whether they flip mafia or town when shot is irrelevant in hipfire. Hipfiring is shooting without due diligence


Tiffiduliu did have due dilligence before his shot. He carefully analyzed each player and came to a conclusion before shooting. He just didn't feel the need to type his reasoning in chat before making his shot.
over 8 years
Do what's right solace and change the rules so that hipfiring is only game throwing if they shoot the wrong alignment.
over 8 years
Whether they flip mafia or town when shot is irrelevant in hipfire. Hipfiring is shooting without due diligence
over 8 years

Solace says

Hi,

I agree with the verdicts given because I can see dzanek townreading MARCO and JM123 and shooting in the remaining 6 players. 3/6 - fair shot.

Meanwhile Tiffiduliu's case leans more towards hipfire.


Solace but they both shot mafia. How is that game throwing regardless of intent? They BOTH shot mafia. That is good. The town are supposed to kill the scum. How is shooting mafia bad at all?
over 8 years
Two different mods gave each vio, maybe they just have different opinions on the matter, and this should have been discussed more thoroughly in the previous thread to avoid confusion.
over 8 years
Hi,

I agree with the verdicts given because I can see dzanek townreading MARCO and JM123 and shooting in the remaining 6 players. 3/6 - fair shot.

Meanwhile Tiffiduliu's case leans more towards hipfire.
over 8 years

Tartosis says

it's better for town to shoot hooker


True but the role means nothing. Both Sheriffs shot mafia on d1 at daystart without gaining any reads. it's not fair that they are both punished differently. This shows that the mod team is baised in their judgements. Justice should be blind and not condone favoritism.
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give dzanek the vio