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caroline vs Tiffiduliu

over 8 years

Approximately 8 days ago, Caroline wrongfully gave Tiffiduliu a 'Game throwing violation'

Tiffiduliu hipfired the Lawyer within 3 seconds of day start.

Apparently, Hipfiring the mafia correctly is Gamethrowing if you do it 3 seconds after gamestart, in carolines eyes.

But in my opinion, if you hipfire correctly then that is not gamethrowing. It is only gamethrowing if you hipfire wrongly. It only hurts town if you hipfire wrong.

Who is right, Caroline or Tiffiduliu?

https://epicmafia.com/report/189345

https://epicmafia.com/game/5243316/review

Who is right, Caroline or Tiffiduliu?
18
Demod Caroline
11
Caroline was right
3
Tiffiduliu was right
over 8 years

Forrest says

The funniest thing I've seen is a while was someone rolling sheriff, hipfiring Gerry 1 second into the game and then immediately suiciding

It doesn't get better than that


That was me
over 8 years

Betrayal says


Escurai says

A play being intended to play against your win condition and working out in your win conditions's favour are not mutually exclusive eventws


yes so shooting the Lawyer on D1 is game throwing. I think the moderators need to revise their rules. Whoever created the rules was obviously drunk.


I tried my best but it was all in vain.


Also what Pranay said.
over 8 years
What you noobs dont understand is that it shouldn't always be trolling in either heart and it shouldn't always be gt. Some hipfires are just hipfires. Some are grudge shots. Like some guys hipfire me specifically. Some times they bypass the vio by asking me to claim and then shooting me. As soon as game starts they ask me to claim. It can easily be judged when a person is throwing and when trolling. It should not be objective. Freaking noob mods working like a binary reader bot.
over 8 years
Dumb mod.
over 8 years
I find myself agreeing with Edark yet again. How can someone be guilty of gamethrowing if the game hasn't been thrown? While hipfiring like that should be a vio of some sort, intentionally forcing the game to a loss doesn't seem like the right one when the game wasn't lost. That's like putting someone in jail for murder when their victim survived.

A more harsh trolling vio would make much more sense in this situation. That being said, it does state in the rules that hipfiring is moderated as GTing. It's not like it's a big secret.
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The funniest thing I've seen is a while was someone rolling sheriff, hipfiring Gerry 1 second into the game and then immediately suiciding

It doesn't get better than that
over 8 years
I personally think hipfire should count as trolling since it could yield positive results and I dont think people hipfire with the intent of losing the game. In most examples that I've seen people tend to try and win the game regardless if it hits town.

But we mods discussed it and it was decided to count as GT so there we go. Its not that important really since you would've gotten a violation regardless.
over 8 years
Good job betrayal. Keep this up.
over 8 years
https://epicmafia.com/report/189398 - 3 minutes ago, Jixxa hipfired the mafia correctly within 3 seconds of the day starting. I would like to see Jixxa be given a violation please since she did the same thing as Tiffiduliu. Punish her for her wrongdoings and refund the game.
over 8 years
if he had followed the HELL YEAH strategy, he wouldn't get the vio.




HELL YEAH strat 4ever.
deletedover 8 years

jack says

I see betrayal's gone back to talking about his alt like it's a completely different person

over 8 years
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
over 8 years

Betrayal says


caroline says

Don't hipfire and you won't get a vio


In real life, if the mafia break into your house, then your initial reaction will be to hipfire them with your shotgun. At night, when the Tracker visits the Granny, the Granny hipfires the Tracker, do they not? Why should daytime Hipfires be any different?


Log out.
over 8 years

caroline says

Don't hipfire and you won't get a vio


In real life, if the mafia break into your house, then your initial reaction will be to hipfire them with your shotgun. At night, when the Tracker visits the Granny, the Granny hipfires the Tracker, do they not? Why should daytime Hipfires be any different?
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EtherealFan says

Caroline's cute so I'm gonna flirt with her only for her to not flirt back because i'm the biggest loser on epic mafia, o well xD, might as well go back to pretending to be a girl!

Sorry op


damn bro
over 8 years
I see betrayal's gone back to talking about his alt like it's a completely different person
deletedover 8 years
Caroline's cute so I'm agreeing with her here

Sorry op
over 8 years

denial says


Becomeclear says

There are grounds here to rename it to Trolling violation instead of gamethrow violation



people want to be able to hipfire in red heart games, lol


f*ck redheart games
over 8 years
demod all mods even me
deletedover 8 years
I always hipfire day 1 on the basis that if they're unlucky enough to get shot that early then they're probably just gonna lose town the game eventually anyway
deletedover 8 years
Don't hipfire and you won't get a vio
over 8 years

Becomeclear says

There are grounds here to rename it to Trolling violation instead of gamethrow violation



people want to be able to hipfire in red heart games, lol
over 8 years
There are grounds here to rename it to Trolling violation instead of gamethrow violation
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Betrayal says


SimplyPam says

Hipfiring is basically shooting without any reads, doesn't matter if you get lucky and shoot mafia you still hipfired lol

Look at in from another view, what if the person shot was a PR?


But in this case, the person shot was not a PR. It's not about the what-ifs. The worst case scenario did not happen, did it?


Even if it wasn't a PR like Caroline said shooting without any reads is playing against your winning conditions. Hipfiring can cost the win for town.

I don't know why people don't take the time to actually read a bit. The gun isn't going to go away or something lol
over 8 years
tfw the foro topic is already hopelessly biased

Approximately 8 days ago, Caroline wrongfully gave Tiffiduliu a 'Game throwing violation'
...
Who is right, Caroline or Tiffiduliu?

lmao nice foro topic 5/7