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How is this not a hipfire?

over 8 years

Game: https://epicmafia.com/game/5260229

Original report moderated by Ethereal https://epicmafia.com/report/189158

Sustained by expose https://epicmafia.com/report/189691

expose 5h 37m
There was enough in-game context to gather reads

It was like 10 seconds into the game and the person who got shot hadn't even spoke nor was he asked for his claim.

He also admitted it was a hipfire in the original report and already has an active GT vio.

over 8 years
I kinda agree that this is hipfire
deletedover 8 years
Also, I don't know why you're going to still fight this if the admins and mods have denied any OT, because once the admins step and and make a judgement it's basically over, whether or not you agree with it
over 8 years
See long post ITT on previous page (first post of page 3). - Outlines how there wasn't sufficient context.

See https://epicmafia.com/topic/77577 how they set the standards for hipfiring in comp - Topic made by current admin Cody

See to the fact that there are plenty of precedents that this type of thing was given GT vios under the current moderation.

See to the fact that this game was competitive, Dzanek is an experienced user who is well aware of the hipfiring rule and has a history of GT (a current GT vio) + this case was ruled as "borderline" with him being given only a verbal warning.

See first post at top of page 2 https://epicmafia.com/topic/78528
Dzanek admits there was no thought process behind his shot and it was entirely based on luck.

See to the fact that Solace and expose ran away from the argument after I defeated them.
over 8 years
But they said Hell yeah.
deletedover 8 years
I actually agree with the standard they set in the thread, but yeah, this one should have been GT then.
over 8 years
Yeah they changed it to be more strict in competitive but aren't moderating at the standard they set
deletedover 8 years

Desiigner says


ChilledOut says

Oh, and it's not game throwing. It would be a trolling violation.


Actually it's gamethrowing since the game was a competitive game.

See https://epicmafia.com/topic/77577


Oh, I had no idea they changed the rule.

Was while I was away
over 8 years
https://epicmafia.com/lobby/rules

"Hipfiring is moderated under Game Throwing in competitive (gold heart) games and Trolling in ranked (red heart) games."
over 8 years

ChilledOut says

Oh, and it's not game throwing. It would be a trolling violation.


Actually it's gamethrowing since the game was a competitive game.

See https://epicmafia.com/topic/77577
deletedover 8 years
:D
deletedover 8 years
Oh, and it's not game throwing. It would be a trolling violation.
over 8 years
I'm not Quest :D
over 8 years
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deletedover 8 years
I believe this should have been given a violation for hipfiring as well.

dzanek talked about hipfiring before the shot.
The shot 15-20 seconds after the game started.
His post-shot reaction was how funny it was. It would not have been funny if it was a carefully assessed shot. It was funny because he hipfired and got it right.

Not only that, but the comment by Ethereal in the original report was "Don't hipfire again. This is borderline." She admitted to it being a hipfire, and the gave it no violation.

IIRC, dzanek has gotten similar violations before, too.

I do believe, again, that this was handled wrong and there is no solid argument for why this should not be given a violation.
deletedover 8 years
Don't you get tired of this sort of thing, Quest?
over 8 years
BUMP!
over 8 years
aw cmon. so people can't have fun now?
over 8 years
HELL YEAH
over 8 years
I too would get tired of arguing something that was clearly incorrect
over 8 years
Obviously dude
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Desiigner says

Solace and expose cowered away lol


They probably got tired of dealing with you and went to do something else tbqh
deletedover 8 years

aladrew says

it's because ethereal is a bad mod


no longer a mod
deletedover 8 years
it's because ethereal is a bad mod
over 8 years
Solace and expose cowered away lol
over 8 years
Furthermore you can see in Betrayal's thread that Dzanek admits that his shot was through "luck" and that reads played no part in it, he then goes on to say that hipfiring should be trolling instead of GT. This proves it was a hipfire and that all the mods who tried to argue otherwise were in fact wrong. Big surprise