Epicmafia

transgirls in sports

over 8 years

this thread was locked some time ago but we never actually had a discussion on it. from past chatbox encounters, a lot of people were interested in it.

greetings epicmafia community,

I think we need a good discussion on trans-people in sports.

Recently, I was reading the news that a trans-girl had been allowed to play on the girls track team. However, this person began to break many previously held records established by other women.

Personally, I believe this is extremely unfair to other people born as girls - objectively, the male human body is stronger and faster than that of a female on average.

please discuss

should trans-people be allowed to play on sports teams?

yes

cub

over 8 years

yes and

MeetTerry says

natural variation

what makes this variation more important than every other one with more concrete and demonstrable implications

oh right nothing simpletons just cant think that far. again, the same sort of people who racial profile when it's really about poverty but to a buffoon skin color is easier to spot

MeetTerry

over 8 years

cub says

and then there are women who dont take testosterone but are just born with higher levels but thats fair because ???

natural variation

trans women still have the body and biology of a man

cub

over 8 years

DrPeePee says

I found it funny that a transperson in alaska came in 4th place in some state race against freshman girls lol.

Like he hadn't even had the operation, he was just a dude saying he was a girl, and he was a senior, and he lost to girls 4 years younger.

more proof to my point that sex is a flawed indicator since every male and female arent clones of eachother

cub

over 8 years

izzy says

ChaoticDoom says

izzy says

oh yeah don't forget about women that take steroids/testosterone even if they're not trans just to cheat anyway so hahaha

how is that even relevant
men do that too

but in the women's division, it'll "even out" the difference between a trans girl and a cis girl. not that it's right, just that it'll probably happen.

and then there are women who dont take testosterone but are just born with higher levels but thats fair because ???

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trap says

DrPeePee says

I found it funny that a transperson in alaska came in 4th place in some state race against freshman girls lol.

Like he hadn't even had the operation, he was just a dude saying he was a girl, and he was a senior, and he lost to girls 4 years younger.

a trans person who hasn't transitioned is still trans

deletedover 8 years

trap says

DrPeePee says

I found it funny that a transperson in alaska came in 4th place in some state race against freshman girls lol.

Like he hadn't even had the operation, he was just a dude saying he was a girl, and he was a senior, and he lost to girls 4 years younger.

a trans person who hasn't transitioned is still trans

But what's the limit? The rule? Can Usain Bolt just say he identifies as a girl and run in the women's races, winning gold their as well? It's a grey area that needs to be defined.

trap

over 8 years

DrPeePee says

I found it funny that a transperson in alaska came in 4th place in some state race against freshman girls lol.

Like he hadn't even had the operation, he was just a dude saying he was a girl, and he was a senior, and he lost to girls 4 years younger.

a trans person who hasn't transitioned is still trans

deletedover 8 years

I found it funny that a transperson in alaska came in 4th place in some state race against freshman girls lol.

Like he hadn't even had the operation, he was just a dude saying he was a girl, and he was a senior, and he lost to girls 4 years younger.

deletedover 8 years

izzy says

oh yeah don't forget about women that take steroids/testosterone even if they're not trans just to cheat anyway so hahaha

Men do that as well remember Lance Armstrong, he took performance enhancing drugs for years before anyone found out

deletedover 8 years

ChaoticDoom says

izzy says

oh yeah don't forget about women that take steroids/testosterone even if they're not trans just to cheat anyway so hahaha

how is that even relevant
men do that too

but in the women's division, it'll "even out" the difference between a trans girl and a cis girl. not that it's right, just that it'll probably happen.

ChaoticDoom

over 8 years

izzy says

oh yeah don't forget about women that take steroids/testosterone even if they're not trans just to cheat anyway so hahaha

how is that even relevant
men do that too

deletedover 8 years

oh yeah don't forget about women that take steroids/testosterone even if they're not trans just to cheat anyway so hahaha

deletedover 8 years

I do have an opinion but I am even conflicting with myself on it so I will not state it

cupofljoe

over 8 years

Floor says

Quality thread as usual.

We have the Monkey vs the Rat.

Who wins?

wtf the monkey obviously unless there's a hole in the wall the mouse can crawl into then the monkey too big

cub

over 8 years

they aren't, they're just good examples of why sex is a flawed indicator of physical ability

ChaoticDoom

over 8 years

LGames says

I think it could be unfair in sports such as tennis where males have the advantage of hitting the ball harder. There are already trans in professional sports and nobody is doing anything about it, look up serena williams and brittany griner

can you prove they're men

LGames

over 8 years

I think it could be unfair in sports such as tennis where males have the advantage of hitting the ball harder. There are already trans in professional sports and nobody is doing anything about it, look up serena williams and brittany griner

ChaoticDoom

over 8 years

people should play the sports competition of their biological gender lol otherwise whats the point of having split competition

Floor

over 8 years

Quality thread as usual.

We have the Monkey vs the Rat.

Who wins?

bdog1321

over 8 years

cub says

or did you forget this is a public thread on a public forum made for discussing the topic and not psychoanalyzing people you disagree with because you either can't or don't want to offer your thoughts but still insist on posting for some nebulous reason

This is what I mean

deletedover 8 years

settle down folks lol

foxie is right tho

cub

over 8 years

or did you forget this is a public thread on a public forum made for discussing the topic and not psychoanalyzing people you disagree with because you either can't or don't want to offer your thoughts but still insist on posting for some nebulous reason

bdog1321

over 8 years

Shoot me a pm then if you need to talk, later

cub

over 8 years

why are you

if you have nothing to say about the topic, you're free not to spam the thread

bdog1321

over 8 years

now my advice on proceeding: don't reply instantly, read the post and try really hard to think what those strings of words mean