lol i just realised that everyone answering questions is being outplayed, you're all being entered into pranay's meta database
deletedover 8 years
I feel like there isn't a right answer you just have the option as clear to trade that potential ml and potential chance that you die for town information. In some situations it is better to do it that way but others it isn't. Even super pros like yourself can get outplayed with the right town
I would kill pr. I am pro so I would let partner lead the kill. Chances are, I hit doctor so 5way no clears. If I hit orc then either lynch naked mafia and kill the most towntelling person or look if naked blue hammers mafia then kill him, either way leading to blue 3way. If my partner hits bomb, then 4way and since then force NK because meteor is on town. If I hit GS then obvious either lucky that gunned town or we won because I got the gun.
deletedover 8 years
all in all I guess it depends on the town i can see that play working if you actually think you can read everyone there if not i will trade the potential loss of a condition mislynch (the condition is you lynch right day 1) for the reads obtained by night actions as well as having a much easier time to find mafia based off interactions.
Btw pranay as mafia what would you do in that situation because it sounds to me like you are saying its optimal to kill.
Well pizza, that's what noobs are afraid of. Always afraid of lynching town.
deletedover 8 years
You would end up lynching town then go on to blame the person you lynched when it clearly was them just being a new player and not enjoying some random player yelling at them to selfvote.
I was about to add boo to the pro list after asking his main. But due to her previous answer I'm not going to.
Btw, me, a super pro, will lynch on mylo no matter what pr I am. Because if im bomb, I can get autowin or survive another day to lynch both mafia, if I'm orc I can lynch one mafia and reveal another instead of just revealing one mafia by dying, as doc I can lynch a mafia and save to get ml back.
Hey boo. You are relying on mafia to get your ml back. Why would you lose the ml when it is in your hands. If you can't lynch mafia on day1 or if you have doubts then you are a noob. You risk losing the ml you can have when you can ensure it. Even if you gun the mafia after lynching a mafia, you still have mislynch
nling is a risk you don't have to take when you can just lynch mafia
deletedover 8 years
for the FP question, I don't think you should lynch d1 and gun a townread because you can easily get the ML back since theres a good chance mafia would NK.
So you just claim PR and suggest that you're bomb/orc, then proceed to NL. Gun someone at night, and if mafia NKs, then you get a ML.
You risk dying and confirm that you will have no mislynch just to get more reads. A pro can find mafia day1. They don't doubt their reads. Personally you decided you needed more information, that is when you are marked as a noob.
No pizza. Your approach is that of a noob. You are wasting ml and you don't have the balls to find mafia on day1. A pro knows the mafia and wouldn't waste a chance to get their ml back. Also bomb test is a concern only for noobs.
@ gerry in second case you can take advantage of the off chance that someone disagrees with your read. So I'd go to meteor day and convince one blue and make sure we both vote first. In case of orc, the orc is clear so the other blue has 1 by 2 chance of being right instead of 1 by 3. So even If he forces nl, he dies as clear. In case of no orc, the clear blue dies and you have no clear. Two cases are different.
The essence of being a pro is that you have to assume you will be right whenever you can land in a significantly better position by taking that risk. For example if you can lynch mafia and regain ml, then you have to assume that you will be right, instead of playing safe.
deletedover 8 years
So i wrote out my response and i think its incorrect to lynch day 1 as uncced pr i think its a waste of a bunch of key information. I mean its nice if you are correct. But personally i rather get reads off of what happens at night and do my actions accordingly esp because if you are a good gunsmith and mafia bomb tests you they will think you are bomb. Its alot easier for 1 person to finish voting than it is for 2 people to finish voting.
