over 8 years

Hey folks, it's BearGuru here. I wanted to say some things to get them off of my chest. This does not in any way display the mod team's opinions as a whole, it is merely my opinion. Soon after I post this I will move the current active threads to the Mod Forums.

Regarding Sammie:

  • SHE is a human being as well, and everything you say that is offensive to transgendered people will be offensive to her.

  • Most of what is on the forums right now on this matter is sh!tposting, which is fine-- until it isn't. I fear we are approaching the line where it becomes hurtful, harmful, and damaging to not only Sammie but the community.

  • Epic Mafia moderators are not divine entities. So she is a mod. So what? So she gets to do reports and benefit the community. It helps with cheating investigations. Her being a moderator is irrelevent, she is mostly going to do the same thing she did as a role mod.

  • That being said, I do not think Sammie is going to be a good moderator for epicmafia in the long run. She is not a team player, but that is just my observation.

Regarding the Mod Team:

  • You have tried everything. You moved a thread that was hurtful to the mod forums, which was the correct call. When the community went into uproar, you just had to deal with it. The alternative was to let the damaging thread go on unmoderated, which is not doing your job.

  • Cody is a brand new admin. He is getting used to the job and for the community to surge against his decisions this early has to be demotivating. This site cannot survive if everybody in power is yelled at, called a child, and targeted.

Regarding me:

  • What I did earlier was crappy. I made hurtful comments that have affected people and really hurt them. I am sorry for what I did, and if that means stepping down as a Role Moderator I will do that.

  • Again, this is not the statement of me as a moderator, it is a statement from me as a person.

Regarding the Site:

  • Lucid owns the site. If anything needs to be done, you message him. If you disagree with something strongly enough, you message him. Do not take to the forums and spew publicly hurtful comments because all it does is make you look immature and hurt the person who is being targeted.

  • If you destroy anybody who comes into power, it will ruin the site. Very few people actually want to moderate the site, and that number is getting smaller every time something like this happens. Please think twice about whatever you are posting.

There you have it. I will be moving the other threads to mod forums shortly. Please engage in CIVIL discussion here. Have a good one.

Bear

over 8 years
why does the mod team always need new tools. i never had a problem modding with what lucid gave us.
over 8 years

Cody says


jack says

i just personally feel like you brought this mess upon yourself when you likely didn't have to. and you know hopefully nothing happens and this was a bunch of worry for nothing... but there was probably an easier choice you could've made


I honestly felt like they were the most qualified candidates at the time. My thought process was this: I vacated my position on the mod team to step into the admin position. I was doing site related things, keeping report counts low, and developing software for the site. There wasn't a single person that I could have asked to join the team that could have filled all of those shoes at once so I asked two people whose overlap of skill sets filled those roles to join the team.

I didn't consider the social ramifications and I apologize for that but I would really appreciate if you gave them a chance to show that they are good people that aren't out to hurt you.


well this was the response i was looking for (not really the answer but w/e), so my work here's done. for your sake Cody, because i like you, i really do hope everything goes fine.

anyone know which way steve went?
over 8 years
"I actually like this mod team and want to help it succeed. And that is what I intend to do." - Arcbell

...so what happens when he doesn't like the team anymore?
over 8 years

leo says


yoyo200900 says

in the op why's "SHE" capitalised bearguru? lmao


People keep misgendering Perti.


why
over 8 years

Seldom says


yoyo200900 says

do you really think that the ad revenue companies will be happy knowing that their ads are on a site that endorses paedophilia


Hey now, that's riot's thing.


Deja vu
over 8 years

Cody says


jack says

i just personally feel like you brought this mess upon yourself when you likely didn't have to. and you know hopefully nothing happens and this was a bunch of worry for nothing... but there was probably an easier choice you could've made


I honestly felt like they were the most qualified candidates at the time. My thought process was this: I vacated my position on the mod team to step into the admin position. I was doing site related things, keeping report counts low, and developing software for the site. There wasn't a single person that I could have asked to join the team that could have filled all of those shoes at once so I asked two people whose overlap of skill sets filled those roles to join the team.

I didn't consider the social ramifications and I apologize for that but I would really appreciate if you gave them a chance to show that they are good people that aren't out to hurt you.


That's pretty hard when they litearlly were out to hurt us less than 2 months ago, in fact they were out to hurt the mod team too, also 2 of those skills can be done by anyone and the software stuff he can do without being a mod
over 8 years
Ling unblock me from skype so we can chat before I turn in for the evening. If you like.
over 8 years

yoyo200900 says

do you really think that the ad revenue companies will be happy knowing that their ads are on a site that endorses paedophilia


Hey now, that's riot's thing.
over 8 years

Cody says


jack says

i just personally feel like you brought this mess upon yourself when you likely didn't have to. and you know hopefully nothing happens and this was a bunch of worry for nothing... but there was probably an easier choice you could've made


I honestly felt like they were the most qualified candidates at the time. My thought process was this: I vacated my position on the mod team to step into the admin position. I was doing site related things, keeping report counts low, and developing software for the site. There wasn't a single person that I could have asked to join the team that could have filled all of those shoes at once so I asked two people whose overlap of skill sets filled those roles to join the team.

I didn't consider the social ramifications and I apologize for that but I would really appreciate if you gave them a chance to show that they are good people that aren't out to hurt you.


At-least you seem like a nice guy
over 8 years
do you really think that the ad revenue companies will be happy knowing that their ads are on a site that endorses paedophilia
over 8 years
That's all well and good, Cody, but I'm still curious how you think basically going "well I know better than the rest of you" is going to 'close the gap between mods and users'
over 8 years
speaking of, she still hasn't said anything besides denying it yesterday. at least arcbell had the stones to face his critics... and blame it on all on love
over 8 years

jack says

i just personally feel like you brought this mess upon yourself when you likely didn't have to. and you know hopefully nothing happens and this was a bunch of worry for nothing... but there was probably an easier choice you could've made


I honestly felt like they were the most qualified candidates at the time. My thought process was this: I vacated my position on the mod team to step into the admin position. I was doing site related things, keeping report counts low, and developing software for the site. There wasn't a single person that I could have asked to join the team that could have filled all of those shoes at once so I asked two people whose overlap of skill sets filled those roles to join the team.

I didn't consider the social ramifications and I apologize for that but I would really appreciate if you gave them a chance to show that they are good people that aren't out to hurt you.
over 8 years
Its funny cause i know for a fact they had other candidates available but they choose to mod these ones
over 8 years

yoyo200900 says

in the op why's "SHE" capitalised bearguru? lmao


People keep misgendering Perti.
over 8 years

pereking says

idk why ur all blaming cody this is all arcbell he's been planning this since trial mods


actually more like right before harry became admin
over 8 years

moon says

free steve


steve is freer than we are
over 8 years
in the op why's "SHE" capitalised bearguru? lmao
over 8 years

ling says

You're letting them flaunt the fact that they can do whatever they like to members of this site and then still be a mod


I've always preferred the karma bombing system as a way of moderating and the eventual harassment that led to self deleting
over 8 years
i really want to fill up the ranks of Arcbell Sucks before i join scubasteve and dave cirno in mafia heaven
over 8 years

BearGuru says

Goodbar you can still see my jokes if you look at the report that was filed


yeeeee!
over 8 years
free steve
over 8 years

Blister says

What can Arcbell and Petri provide that functional people can't?


pages upon pages of drama
over 8 years
idk why ur all blaming cody this is all arcbell he's been planning this since trial mods
over 8 years
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