joking about things other people joke about is offensive, so this is now a serious discussion about euthanasia which it was going to be anyway. do you support or oppose it
benefits
when people think about suicide seriously and persistently, they can get a medical diagnosis to see if this is really something that might be an option or if there are alternatives
slight cut to overpopulation
fewer gruesome failed suicides
stop suffering from incurable disease and compounding medical bills that only exist to prolong one's agony
cons
doctor moral dilemma
incredibly disturbed medical personnel might have a profit motive, which would mean cost would have to be removed
maybe my next thread should be about current climate in the digital age where people feel the need to chime in on everything even if they don't have anything to say about the topic at hand, instead commenting on the nature of the topic and ad hom those participating
people can be really confident when they get really involved in their meta commentary, but to those trying to talk about the actual subject you still look silly
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even for the spam forum, the off-topic meta commentary is too much. will be sure to pick a tame and civilised topic about murder and such next time
and i have no beef with people who joke about suicide. not sure you read first, but i was the one taking a lighthearted approach before being told i crossed the line. i was simply pointing out the hypocrisy of people joking about it then taking offense
the majority of your post is based on a false assumption because you didnt read before posting
you're right about one thing, though. you're very unfit to talk about these things
deletedover 8 years
This thread is kicking in an open door. Most west-european countries already provide the option for euthanasia to patients who suffer from certain illnesses including depression given they meet the requirements. The audience you are trying to engage with is also unfit to talk about a subject they likely know very little about. Most people here could and should not care.
It seems your beef is entirely with those who joke about unassisted suicide and probably don't take it seriously enough according to you. Even though the people who joke about suicide find humor in the disturbance of the subject and thus probably understand how serious it is. Perhaps you shouldn't have posted about assisted suicide then and gotten straight to the point. As pointless as what you try to do is; you cannot prevent people joking about sensitive subjects as much as you can change the wheather, even if I wanted to. Raising awareness about the seriousness is only bothersome and unnecessary. Especially on this website.
no, you just read the thread in the wrong order. i admit i was discounting the emotional response as unjustified, although my post was a response to kaworu because they and apparently others thought i didn't take this issue seriously. im still below 25, so i don't meet my own standards for saying i have a definitive answer on life yet.
you probably read backwards and saw there was a narrative to be made that put me in a negative light and being that you just got through deleting me because i wanted to be alone like normal people sometimes do, you probably had to discredit me to justify yourself. sorry to psychoanalyze, it just seems that way.
but ill make another thread another day where we can argue about how coldness breeds coldness and we can argue about how terrible we both are and use faces like :^^) to pretend to brush it off.
I thought i made it pretty clear, I didn't dislike you, you just made me feel like you did and would ignore me, etc. I do that to people I don't care for and such so you should be able to understand my pov. Plus, you've replied faster in threads than IM :^^)
Not trying to be but I'd probably be lying if I said this thread didn't rub me the wrong way in a sense that it came off to me like you felt your depression was greater in a sense than others and tried to devalue them based on their apparent lesser depression. Came off stupid to me to be bragging about a /true/ depression or something to others /fake/ depression.
in this post: user who discards friendships because of someone's personality takes moral highground, mistakes "not being taken seriously" with "being taken too seriously." "or something."
you're usually a troll, but i think you're just purposefully nasty now
ITT: OP is depressed and knows every's mental status and gets to dictate who is depressed and who isn't. And rants about a thread not being taken seriously on this website or something.
i post my threads in the spam forum because its closest to the complaints forum which i think is the most active forum on epicmafia
i was just as serious about capital punishment, open primaries (which was a lot more controversial content-wise, not so much outwardly), and the jill stein/3rd party candidacy thread got fairly serious when debating with drpp
i was being lighthearted as i always am because i didn't expect people to be as up in arms about something they consistently joke about as they happened to be. my stances didn't change, just my wording
deletedover 8 years
a lot of arguments regarding abortion can also be made for assisted suicide, yeah
i think a society might tend to take suicide more seriously with euthanasia being a legal option, and maybe even more so the more accessible it becomes, which would account for the lack of outcry im seeing about belgium's law. i could just not be digging deep enough though, but i mostly only see articles reporting on the announcement of the law itself
deletedover 8 years
I don't think assisted suicide(specifically or in general) should be taken as a joke. On the other hand, I do not take the lobby poll seriously precisely because I see it as a joke.
Additionally, I can assure you that I take suicide very seriously (you won't ever see me joke about it). On the other hand, less serious topics not so much.
I am glad you have changed the content of your topic to make it more serious. Unfortunately I am now on my phone so it will take a while for me to remove my down vote.
also, i just looked it up, apparently belgium has no age limit on euthanasia, so i was mistaken. unsure what the repercussions of that is, ill have to find some after-the-fact articles since it didn't seem to spark much controversy beyond its announcement
see, bdog, dourada is offering to demonstrate the role of troll in this thread. a troll doesn't contribute anything thoughtful to the conversation, but sticks to simple two-"word" posts and capslock
if you genuinely think im trying to troll, you're very mistaken. these topics are on issues that i feel strongly about, and this is anything but the exception.
aside from assisted suicide not being legal for anyone below adulthood anywhere in the world even where it is otherwise generally legal, i would argue that it should be illegal for anyone below the age of ~25 because even the early twenties are the years in a person's life where they're still most dynamic and uncertain about these sorts of things
you can look harder or you can help build the discussion. it sounds to me that you think assisted suicide should be illegal, which is a valid stance, but i disagree, so that's a basis for discussion right there. can you tell me why you think it should be illegal in cases of terminal or severe chronic illnesses?
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