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Edgeworthh
about 8 years

This has gone on far too long. The Epicmafia user WildWalrus was banned today very unjustly. I have talked to the admin Roadman and screenshots of the conversation will be below.

The Reason according to Roadman: He refused to tell him his "Main Account"

Now what's wrong with this? First of all, me and Walrus do not only have a client to professional relationship, but a friendship. The facts are, Walrus claimed he had no main account and WildWalrus was his main. Roadman even confirms that they checked his IP logins and no accounts showed up on the same as his. There was no reason, and if Walrus's subject about mod abuse was null before, this is real mod abuse. You can't ban someone based on thinking they are a banned user and having no IP conflicts. Otherwise you could ban anyone you didn't like for this reason. Which is exactly what he did. All the proof is in the screenshots below. I demand an unban of my client. He was exercising free speech and wasn't even banned until Roadman decided to censor him. Walrus's threads were even deleted in response to the threads exposing the truth instead of locking them. Isn't that a hint of the real motives of the mods who deleted and banned him? If you don't stand up for people in your community, when this happens to you, no one will be able to stand up for you.

EVIDENCE 1

MY INITAL MESSAGE: http://puu.sh/oEnm0.png

RESPONSE: http://puu.sh/oEnGk.png

EVIDENCE 2

He claims the other accounts were Walrus: http://puu.sh/oEnIg.png

(YET HE CAN'T CORRESPOND AN IP FROM ANY OF THOSE AND BEETS ADMITTED BEING ONE)

ROADMAN ASSUMING ABOUT BEET

http://puu.sh/oEnXt.png

SIDE NOTE

Roadman is a good guy. I have nothing against him. The only thing wrong is my client was banned unjustly and I am asking for a reverse because the only reason for a ban is conjecture. Thank you for promptly responding to me Roadman and your time in the matter through our messages. I am sorry we could not resolve it that way. I am just doing my job.

Thank you all for your time.

Kind Regards,

Miles Edgeworth

EDIT Couldn't have said this better myself http://pastebin.com/RaE9s3S3

vilden
about 8 years
ur not censored. ur raising an issue that can be resolved with a single pm (confirming your main with roadman). until then creating topics is just clutter
WildNarwhal
about 8 years
WAIT, SO IF WILDWALRUS DOES EVENTUALLY REVEAL HIS MAIN ACCOUNT AND ISN'T A BANNED USER, HE GETS INSTANTLY UNBANNED, RIGHT? HE NEVER DID ANYTHING AGAINST THE RULES AND IF HE CAN DEMONSTRATE THAT HE ISN'T A BANNED USER, HE HAS NO GROUNDS ON WHICH TO BE BANNED.
Edgeworthh
about 8 years

vilden says

yo sims

make a statement and lock this (and all walrus threads). hes banned for refusing to out his main to the admin

responses are only keeping this alive


More censorship because there is no valid point to come back with. So you must censor. Because we are right.
vilden
about 8 years
yo sims

make a statement and lock this (and all walrus threads). hes banned for refusing to out his main to the admin

responses are only keeping this alive
Sims
about 8 years
i don't see how i have a "one track mind." wildwalrus admitted to that not being his main account, i'm not sure what else you want. if you want to ask any questions about why he's banned i'll answer them so this thing can die already, but i don't think there's anything left to ask and it seems like you know that
WildNarwhal
about 8 years
WILDWALRUS IS AN ACCOUNT WITH OVER 17,000 POINTS AND HAS NEVER ACTUALLY DONE SOMETHING THAT IS BANABLE. IF HE'S REALLY THE TERRIBLE, EVIL BANNED USER THAT YOU ALL THINK HE IS, WON'T HE EVENTUALLY DO SOMETHING THAT IS BANABLE?

I MEAN SIMS, HE HAS MORE POINTS THAN YOU. HE'S A PRETTY DAMN GOOD MAFIA PLAYER AND UNLESS HE DOES SOMETHING AGAINST THE RULES I DON'T SEE WHY HE SHOULD BE PUNISHED.
Edgeworthh
about 8 years
So instead of actually thinking about the issue at hand, mods come in here and have a one track mind. No wonder Walrus got so frustrated. Do you not see how he was unfairly banned based on profiling and assumptions?
Sims
about 8 years
it's almost like you didn't read the second half of that post
WildNarwhal
about 8 years

Sims says

i don't know what you guys expect when you don't cooperate with the guy who has every right to terminate your use of this site if he believes you're a suspicious user.


YOU MEAN IF HE BELIEVES YOU'RE A BANNED USER, RIGHT? NOT IF YOU'RE ANNOYING, OR AS SOME MAY CALL IT, "SUSPICIOUS".
thechuff
about 8 years
I see things like this and think, Just play the game?
Sims
about 8 years
my parents taught me that if a cop ever mistreated me I should just cooperate and report them after, because they have guns and bullets hurt
pereking
about 8 years
gimmick account families should be banned
Sims
about 8 years

Edgeworthh says


Sims says

i don't know what you guys expect when you don't cooperate with the guy who has every right to terminate your use of this site if he believes you're a suspicious user. wildwalrus could have just given roadman his main account instead of trying to play martyr. if he gives roadman a legitimate main account i don't think there would be any issue


WildWalrus is his main account. That is what you don't understand. He is ASSUMING he is logging in on different IPs when really you could accuse anyone of that. It's profiling. And there are other motives in my opinion. But the other motives do not matter to me, I am stating what is not just in this ban.


i'd be inclined to believe wildwalrus was his main account given his points if he wasn't publicly taunting people to guess his actual identity
Shwartz99
about 8 years

Edgeworthh says

WildWalrus is his main account.


vilden
about 8 years

Edgeworthh says

WildWalrus is his main account.


lol
AItair
about 8 years

Sims says

i don't know what you guys expect when you don't cooperate with the guy who has every right to terminate your use of this site if he believes you're a suspicious user. wildwalrus could have just given roadman his main account instead of trying to play martyr. if he gives roadman a legitimate main account i don't think there would be any issue


sure he is technically given the keys and has a 'right'

but is it the right thing to do

ask yourselves

is it worth it
gerrysuck
about 8 years
ah yes caps walls of text, very suspicious ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
vilden
about 8 years
except gerryfan, that is Mori
vilden
about 8 years
whoever did these gerry acc's https://epicmafia.com/family/9722

is also walrus in my humble opinion
Edgeworthh
about 8 years

Sims says

i don't know what you guys expect when you don't cooperate with the guy who has every right to terminate your use of this site if he believes you're a suspicious user. wildwalrus could have just given roadman his main account instead of trying to play martyr. if he gives roadman a legitimate main account i don't think there would be any issue


WildWalrus is his main account. That is what you don't understand. He is ASSUMING he is logging in on different IPs when really you could accuse anyone of that. It's profiling. And there are other motives in my opinion. But the other motives do not matter to me, I am stating what is not just in this ban.
Sims
about 8 years
i don't know what you guys expect when you don't cooperate with the guy who has every right to terminate your use of this site if he believes you're a suspicious user. wildwalrus could have just given roadman his main account instead of trying to play martyr. if he gives roadman a legitimate main account i don't think there would be any issue
Edgeworthh
about 8 years

Jimbei says

In immense matters such as this, the mod team should work together as a jury, not individual judge jury and executioners to potentially innocent users. This is injustice


I agree with this wholeheartedly. They all should have some transparency as well about the issues instead of deleting threads and banning innocent users. Work together in the open because this isn't legal.
Edgeworthh
about 8 years

Shwartz99 says

Edgeworth is a prosecutor why is he defending walrus


I have a public attorney badge. I am just hired by the government. This makes no difference.
johnreid
about 8 years

Jimbei says

In immense matters such as this, the mod team should work together as a jury, not individual judge jury and executioners to potentially innocent users. This is injustice


Agreed
Sonrio
about 8 years
HOW WOULD YOU KNOW? YOU AREN'T A W A L R U S