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Definition of HC.

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Anyone else notice the mod team just changed it to cover their tracks of bad moderation. Why didn't they tell us?...should everyone with a hate comment be unbanned because former/current mods didn't even know what a hate comment was? So unprofessional..yet so typical.

TO THE MODS:

Be productive and actually talk about something site relevant in the moderator chat, and come up with ACTUAL GUIDELINES behind a HC. The way things are being handled right now is honestly just ridiculous.

We have these mods just throwing violations left and right and its pretty crazy if you go back and look at some reports. Its like they are just trying to fly though the reports to get them done and see one or two words and say 'HATE COMMENT!' not looking at the context, not looking at really anything.

It seems most of you moderators are new or maybe not as involved, and I know its probably not a fun job..and a lot people may not like you. The RESPONSIBILITY of a moderator is to maintain a FAIR and enjoyable experience..im rambling..but it is not fair to any player to have these vague descriptions of what someone may think a HATE COMMENT is. This is just bad moderation, bad moderation drives away new players which hurts the site..obviously.

I'm just maybe trying to provoke some thought, sorry if you feel I'm being to harsh...but this is the complaint thread after all. I'm sure you moderators are good people, and have common sense. I'm sure you know mafia is a competitive game, and people may get frustrated from time to time. Ultimately its you guys who enforce the rules...this is simply a rant. In my opinion, it would just be nice to see some leniency in moderation differentiating actual HATE/DEMEANING SPEECH from SWEARING.


Feel free to state your opinion, but really the big thing I'm trying to get at is fair moderation..and I think the HC topic is one that is LONG past due to being addressed for everyones sake.

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DrakeJr says

germatron you're a special king of idiot dude


good retort. im surprised youre able to dress yourself
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DrakeJr says

to put this into perspective.. if getting triggered by words on the internet is the worst thing that's going on for you imagine being a black man, you're getting triggered forreal by the police lol


This isn't the best analogy, imo.
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I didn't intend to offend anyone with the post I made. I was just stating my general observations. Maybe I've seen too many Tumblr triggers. I also do not think people should inherently be horrible. That's bad too.
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germatron you're a special king of idiot dude
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scubasteve is getting soft in his old age
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to put this into perspective.. if getting triggered by words on the internet is the worst thing that's going on for you imagine being a black man, you're getting triggered forreal by the police lol
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i can't upvote you so take this post saying i would upvote if i could, steve
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I mean there's a reasonable expectation with people sensitive to certain triggers that they're going to stumble across something on the internet that really gets to them. That being said, a moderated mafia website shouldn't be one of those places where you should automatically assume you're going to have ableist/racial/homophobic/whatever other slurs thrown in your direction, nor should it be expected that you'll be subject to other common forms of internet harassment.

Maybe the best solution is to just be a decent person, and you won't have to worry about getting banned.
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rutab says


ashes says


rutab says

People who need to list their triggers, though, have absolutely no chance in the real world off of the Internet.


hmm? are you saying people with triggers or only people who list them?


People who classify things that bother them as "triggers." If you think about it, some people who need the others around them to avoid talking about something, doing something, or even passively talking about something are mentally damaged and should go to therapy or use other treatments in order to overcome that. Off of the Internet, there are no trigger warnings. You have to deal with it. That's life.


ah, i had a similar discussion with my father on this. hope i'm not dragging this terribly off topic.
some of the stupid #%*$ that people claim triggers them (like the word pineapple lol), i dont believe that. but cases of sexual abuse... yeah, that's a thing, but as you stated there's therapy. some people can't afford such therapy though, so it's unfair to just say people should go to it.

also technically, there are trigger warnings in real life. it's called "viewer discretion is advised."
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DrakeJr says


ashes says


rutab says

People who need to list their triggers, though, have absolutely no chance in the real world off of the Internet.


hmm? are you saying people with triggers or only people who list them?





i see youre quite at home here. defining words really is all you can do huh? has someone told you what speculation means yet
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I mean, trust me. I passed my Psychology 101 course at the top of my 20 person class after all ;)
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ashes says


rutab says

People who need to list their triggers, though, have absolutely no chance in the real world off of the Internet.


hmm? are you saying people with triggers or only people who list them?


People who classify things that bother them as "triggers." If you think about it, some people who need the others around them to avoid talking about something, doing something, or even passively talking about something are mentally damaged and should go to therapy or use other treatments in order to overcome that. Off of the Internet, there are no trigger warnings. You have to deal with it. That's life.
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ashes says


rutab says

People who need to list their triggers, though, have absolutely no chance in the real world off of the Internet.


hmm? are you saying people with triggers or only people who list them?


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rutab says

People who need to list their triggers, though, have absolutely no chance in the real world off of the Internet.


hmm? are you saying people with triggers or only people who list them?
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People who need to list their triggers, though, have absolutely no chance in the real world off of the Internet.
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DrakeJr says

not sure what your post even means, mine still stands.


did you mean mine? sorry, i should've cleared up what i meant. you'll probably still disagree however haha.

it's an okay idea to share what bothers you, but it'll only be abused, is what i meant.
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not sure what your post even means, mine still stands.
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i got your back, ian. there's an entire thread in the mod forums full of mods saying slurs under the pretense of discussing them and if someone vios you i'm vio-ing all of them retroactively.
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DrakeJr says

anyone who has a "list of triggers" is a special idiot


good idea in theory but fails in practice
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mist says

personally i think if you're actually using it in a post talking about the word itself it's one of the few contexts it's ok. but like just saying it for the sake of saying it is still kinda weak and bad and a vio. idk man don't quote me on that someone else might vio you lmao


thank u for sparing me
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anyone who has a "list of triggers" is a special idiot
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mist says

harassment, probably.


Okay I can see it this way.
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rutab says

Oh, here's a good one.

Let's say a really sensitive user puts a "list of triggers" on their profile. Someone in their game gets angry at the sensitive person and starts talking about their "triggers" with the intent to offend/harm them. What do mods do then?


in all fairness,listing your triggers is pretty dangerous :s not saying they deserve it but at the same time it's just not smart.
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harassment, probably.
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Oh, here's a good one.

Let's say a really sensitive user puts a "list of triggers" on their profile. Someone in their game gets angry at the sensitive person and starts talking about their "triggers" with the intent to offend/harm them. What do mods do then?