Hey all, I had a serious discussion with moon about setups, the site meta, and how to make comp more appealing. Why not make a separate fancy pants only lobby so new players aren't introduced to a setup that, may be fun but promote theworst behaviours for learning competitve play?
Guns and Hookers is an excellent red heart setup, and more setups like those (BASIC SCUM HUNT) should be played.
To those players who only play Fancy Pants, the Fancy Pants only lobby will still fill, and everyone will still be happy.
And, if you guys don't think an FP lobby would work, how would we improve main so that new players learn to actually play mafia? Which setups should be used as introductory setups?
Blacklisting the problem setups clearly isn't an option as it has been suggested before and met with strong opposition.
Classic and Fancy Pants are just a good midway point for people to go to between Sandbox and Comp/Featured Set ups. The basic mechanics are there and to some degree, there is a little scumhunting that needs to be done, but the reads are simple because there is a general low rate of experience.
Nope. Just FP. Why remove the other pointfarms? Let the sheep aka players learn that there are some other setups other than FP, then in the future we will do something else. One step at a time.
The problem is all the zombies will migrate to the pointfarm lobby and your plan wont work.
The solution to the game problem is to ban all the "PRs are clear and lead" setups so that the meta shifts away from blues afk while the PRs control the game. There's no interim solution to this, as long as people can play "blues afk while the PRs control the game" setups they will becauses it's easier to pander to clears than to use deductive reasoning.
We need D1 mylo setups with multiple possibilities for D1 in order to promote a health thought structure and approach to this game. If you try to rely on ML setups we'll keep transitioning back to "blues afk while the PRs control the game" meta which is what broke this site.
Or maybe we actually start forcing ISP vios in red heart games, and force people to play with an iron fist.
The problem is all the zombies will migrate to the pointfarm lobby and your plan wont work.
The solution to the game problem is to ban all the "PRs are clear and lead" setups so that the meta shifts away from blues afk while the PRs control the game. There's no interim solution to this, as long as people can play "blues afk while the PRs control the game" setups they will becauses it's easier to pander to clears than to use deductive reasoning.
We need D1 mylo setups with multiple possibilities for D1 in order to promote a health thought structure and approach to this game. If you try to rely on ML setups we'll keep transitioning back to "blues afk while the PRs control the game" meta which is what broke this site.