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Round 378 Discussion

Gerry
over 9 years

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hi lilin
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forum suspended and account suspension is different

also

thinking I wasn't posting while forum suspended on this account
Arbre
over 9 years
"meta abuse is "i NEVER kill this person as mafia, and i ALWAYS start days with this line as town, so i cannot be mafia""

So we can now report people who try to meta clear themselves?
Sonrio
over 9 years
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lilinonlyknows says

I've never been banned or suspended


i can't say the same
deletedover 9 years
I've never been banned or suspended
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lilinonlyknows says

who even cares about being banned anymore, just rename ban to "suspension"


prison life seems like it hasn't done you any favors
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Arbre says

I guess I really don't see the difference between meta and meta abuse here. It seems very subjective.


meta is "arbre plays this way a lot as town, so i think he's town"

meta abuse is "i NEVER kill this person as mafia, and i ALWAYS start days with this line as town, so i cannot be mafia"
deletedover 9 years
who even cares about being banned anymore, just rename ban to "suspension"
deletedover 9 years
being banned for cheating didn't stop anyone from getting power neither will meta
Arbre
over 9 years
I guess I really don't see the difference between meta and meta abuse here. It seems very subjective.
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ban meta, imho tbh.
deletedover 9 years
meta=/= meta abuse

Meta is unavoidable.
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Arbre says

What I mean is you're bound to play with some players several times, especially in comped where there are less players. Are you just supposed to ignore meta then? That rule seems very unfair and annoying. You're basically told to ignore useful data.


meta is fine, repeatedly using a specific behavior to prove your alignment isn't fine
deletedover 9 years
that makes sense. i was thinking vio per instance
Hibiki
over 9 years

voluntaryloser says

i don't really have a problem with it. it's good that meta abuse is actually on the rules page now. the only part i don't get is why it'd be more lenient than cheating. 4 vios for a ban seems off


meta abuse is usually multi-game/established over lots of games. if it's vio-per-game then i can see it being fine
deletedover 9 years
if you're not talking about guiser then i ain't talkin
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Devante says


voluntaryloser says

guisetesting is against the rules now? what the ****?


what's it called i don't see it


they tacked it onto the end of ogi but it's gone now
Arbre
over 9 years
What I mean is you're bound to play with some players several times, especially in comped where there are less players. Are you just supposed to ignore meta then? That rule seems very unfair and annoying. You're basically told to ignore useful data.
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plus the rule phrasing probably doesn't really capture all of what meta abuse is
Devante
over 9 years

voluntaryloser says

guisetesting is against the rules now? what the ****?


what's it called i don't see it
deletedover 9 years
i don't really have a problem with it. it's good that meta abuse is actually on the rules page now. the only part i don't get is why it'd be more lenient than cheating. 4 vios for a ban seems off
Arbre
over 9 years
I'm not talking about guiser at all.
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meta abuse is a problem with or without guiser, guiser is inherently crippled by meta in the first place, and you just cannot ban meta.
deletedover 9 years
i think he's talking about the meta abuse part