weird, considering i could just stack my games with maxwell (someone who i'm not strongly friends with) and other strong non-friend players like peta and gira. we could play c14 games all round because we like scumhunt setups. doing so would be a clear advantage to me, through higher likelihood that at least one of these strong players will be on my side.
plus, i don't really know how this ties to meta. wouldn't these players who play together have to do actions that could constitute as meta abuse?
there's a difference between playing for friends and allowing your friends to win.
when i play with my friends, we only do red hearts, because we know, occasionally, we might help each other. whenever we play gold, its every man for himself. but even then, it's hard to avoid occasional favoritism.
meta abuse is when that favoritism is consistent and repeated throughout a series of games.
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When you have a clear advantage as a result of specific players you're stacking your tables with.
i played 2 full rounds with kerry, won trophies in both of them, and, obviously, we didn't cheat or play unsportsmanlike in any way. we got full trust.
can only well-known players play with their friends?
why ban friends from playing just because you can't trust them?
what if two good-but-not-friend players like devante and pranay end up on 90+% of each other's games in a jan 2.0 round? will they be dq'd as well?
if you want to be a stickler for semantics, meta abuse is abusing OGI like "i wouldn't kill X," but that's no fun. it's always been a blanket term for throwing for a friend.
the difference between using meta and meta abuse is the repeated occurrence of a consistent pattern of behavior, which means that it has become substantial enough to influence games consistently.
at that point, it is no longer actually meta, but a part of every game with those players, thereby constituting cheating
basically stop saying the word meta abuse cuz it's stupid. also a community agreed upon limit for games is a good idea, because cases like gerry and Zwink will continue to happen. People will just see a large amount of games between 2 people and instantly believe they're cheating. and then call it meta abuse, stupidly.
imo, if you can't post an agreeable definition of "meta abuse" ITT then you shouldn't allowed to use the term, or subsequently accuse someone of, "meta abuse"
meta abuse is when a situation that would otherwise not occur repeatedly happens, over the course of many games, because of meta between 2 or more players.