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"meta abuse"

over 9 years

prove you know your stuff, post your definition of meta abuse and how to do it ITT

over 9 years

mist says

When you have a clear advantage as a result of specific players you're stacking your tables with.


weird, considering i could just stack my games with maxwell (someone who i'm not strongly friends with) and other strong non-friend players like peta and gira. we could play c14 games all round because we like scumhunt setups. doing so would be a clear advantage to me, through higher likelihood that at least one of these strong players will be on my side.

plus, i don't really know how this ties to meta. wouldn't these players who play together have to do actions that could constitute as meta abuse?
over 9 years
Playing with the same person multiple times when you have chances to play with another group of people frequently.
deletedover 9 years
Meta gaming is when you play with a group of players, and know their party mafia "playstyle"

There by repetitively playing with said group of players is abusing meta gaming

Garyoat did not abuse the meta, he just cheated. Ie: Role sharing via third party chat, alive and dead
deletedover 9 years
good question. i for one certainly wouldn't know
over 9 years
there's a difference between playing for friends and allowing your friends to win.

when i play with my friends, we only do red hearts, because we know, occasionally, we might help each other. whenever we play gold, its every man for himself. but even then, it's hard to avoid occasional favoritism.

meta abuse is when that favoritism is consistent and repeated throughout a series of games.
deletedover 9 years
When you have a clear advantage as a result of specific players you're stacking your tables with.
over 9 years
trying to find the report where some guy reported another guy for "AtE"
over 9 years

Sanctify says

basically stop saying the word meta abuse cuz it's stupid. also a community agreed upon limit for games is a good idea, because cases like gerry and Zwink will continue to happen. People will just see a large amount of games between 2 people and instantly believe they're cheating. and then call it meta abuse, stupidly.


i played 2 full rounds with kerry, won trophies in both of them, and, obviously, we didn't cheat or play unsportsmanlike in any way. we got full trust.

can only well-known players play with their friends?

why ban friends from playing just because you can't trust them?

what if two good-but-not-friend players like devante and pranay end up on 90+% of each other's games in a jan 2.0 round? will they be dq'd as well?
over 9 years
if you want to be a stickler for semantics, meta abuse is abusing OGI like "i wouldn't kill X," but that's no fun. it's always been a blanket term for throwing for a friend.
over 9 years

vilden says

One who abuses meta -thebrontosaurus


You are such a meta abuse.
over 9 years

Sims says

playing to somebody else's win condition over the course of a round


that's not meta abuse, sorry. that has nothing to do with meta
deletedover 9 years
Who is this meta guy, and why is everyone abusing the $### out of him?
over 9 years

Sims says

playing to somebody else's win condition over the course of a round


where is the meta?
deletedover 9 years

Sims says

playing to somebody else's win condition over the course of a round


Thats called cheating bro
over 9 years
the difference between using meta and meta abuse is the repeated occurrence of a consistent pattern of behavior, which means that it has become substantial enough to influence games consistently.

at that point, it is no longer actually meta, but a part of every game with those players, thereby constituting cheating
over 9 years
basically stop saying the word meta abuse cuz it's stupid. also a community agreed upon limit for games is a good idea, because cases like gerry and Zwink will continue to happen. People will just see a large amount of games between 2 people and instantly believe they're cheating. and then call it meta abuse, stupidly.
over 9 years
Are you guys arguing meta can't be abused? Or that you can't define it lol
over 9 years
over 9 years
playing to somebody else's win condition over the course of a round
over 9 years

vilden says

One who abuses meta -thebrontosaurus


how do you abuse meta though? Isn't using meta to read someone once abuse of it.

Then you have to ask yourself, isn't this game based upon meta, and the ability to read someone based off how they played in previous games.

Therefore making most decent comp players "meta abusers"
over 9 years
Meta abuse is not real
deletedover 9 years
I used to to win 33 of 43 games with some girl

We called it Meta Abuse when we got called out for cheating
over 9 years
One who abuses meta -thebrontosaurus
over 9 years
imo, if you can't post an agreeable definition of "meta abuse" ITT then you shouldn't allowed to use the term, or subsequently accuse someone of, "meta abuse"
over 9 years
meta abuse is when a situation that would otherwise not occur repeatedly happens, over the course of many games, because of meta between 2 or more players.