Epicmafia

almost 11 years

*puts on suit*

objection

almost 11 years

I'm going to hand this over to my second chair. When I get back, I'd like a word in the quarters with the honorable judge sims

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mist says

So he's already given his explanation as to why he was sure he was lynching mafia but because you know these two happen to be friends and he screwed up autowin you're positive he was throwing?

And do you propose something else?

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goodbar is a good lawyer

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Yeah not gonna lie this is an absolutely garbage ruling. You can't give someone a GT vio when they have a perfectly reasonable explanation for their actions "because the person who won is their friend."

Goodbar

almost 11 years

mist says

So he's already given his explanation as to why he was sure he was lynching mafia but because you know these two happen to be friends and he screwed up autowin you're positive he was throwing?

remember when the argument was that he should know better? Idio just wants it sustained because he wants him rebanned

roadman

almost 11 years

twist says

roadman says

Build more burrows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MdQtUSsHfQ

My friend made that. I was actually a tester.

True story.

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So he's already given his explanation as to why he was sure he was lynching mafia but because you know these two happen to be friends and he screwed up autowin you're positive he was throwing?

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roadman says

Build more burrows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MdQtUSsHfQ

Goodbar

almost 11 years

Idioteque says

Goodbar says

Idioteque says

mist says

So is not taking an autowin opportunity automatically throwing even if you're still genuinely attempting to lynch mafia?

He wasn't genuinely attempting to lynch mafia, so no.

What part of he was claiming lb all game and scum outplayed bs by ccing each other do you not get? It was reasonable to think bs was scum

Ah yes, the "No True Scotsman" argument. A personal favorite.

That's cute and all but you need to be a Big Kid and realize he actually fossed the dude for good reasons

roadman

almost 11 years

Build more burrows.

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hey goodbar anthony told me to tell you to play mafia again

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Goodbar says

Idioteque says

mist says

So is not taking an autowin opportunity automatically throwing even if you're still genuinely attempting to lynch mafia?

He wasn't genuinely attempting to lynch mafia, so no.

What part of he was claiming lb all game and scum outplayed bs by ccing each other do you not get? It was reasonable to think bs was scum

Ah yes, the "No True Scotsman" argument. A personal favorite.

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mist says

Idioteque says

mist says

So is not taking an autowin opportunity automatically throwing even if you're still genuinely attempting to lynch mafia?

He wasn't genuinely attempting to lynch mafia, so no.

Oh so you're legitimately arguing that he was actually intending to throw the game?

Yes, that's the idea behind sustaining a Gamethrowing violation against him.

Goodbar

almost 11 years

Idioteque says

Goodbar says

Idioteque says

Goodbar says

Idioteque says

You want to lynch someone without knowing an autowin mechanic, fine. You don't know about an autowin mechanic and leave your vote on him by accident, sure. You can't have both. Thanks for letting me prove my point that much better.

"Was sure he was maf" does not prove your point. If he thinks the guy is maf, he can't be game throwing because he's trying to play to his wincon

I'm saying he wasn't.

But, like, he didn't know the autowin mechanic and left his vote on on purpose because it was the person he fossed

And it happened to be against a friend of his, someone he plays with regularly, skypes with, and would throw for. I'm glad we had this discussion, Goodbar.

Judge, bias. I ask he recuses himself from this case

Goodbar

almost 11 years

Idioteque says

mist says

So is not taking an autowin opportunity automatically throwing even if you're still genuinely attempting to lynch mafia?

He wasn't genuinely attempting to lynch mafia, so no.

What part of he was claiming lb all game and scum outplayed bs by ccing each other do you not get? It was reasonable to think bs was scum

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Idioteque says

mist says

So is not taking an autowin opportunity automatically throwing even if you're still genuinely attempting to lynch mafia?

He wasn't genuinely attempting to lynch mafia, so no.

Oh so you're legitimately arguing that he was actually intending to throw the game?

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Goodbar says

Idioteque says

Goodbar says

Idioteque says

You want to lynch someone without knowing an autowin mechanic, fine. You don't know about an autowin mechanic and leave your vote on him by accident, sure. You can't have both. Thanks for letting me prove my point that much better.

"Was sure he was maf" does not prove your point. If he thinks the guy is maf, he can't be game throwing because he's trying to play to his wincon

I'm saying he wasn't.

But, like, he didn't know the autowin mechanic and left his vote on on purpose because it was the person he fossed

And it happened to be against a friend of his, someone he plays with regularly, skypes with, and would throw for. I'm glad we had this discussion, Goodbar.

Goodbar

almost 11 years

mist says

So is not taking an autowin opportunity automatically throwing even if you're still genuinely attempting to lynch mafia?

This. Fhpov he thought he had scum already and didn't understand the mech. This isn't GT

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mist says

So is not taking an autowin opportunity automatically throwing even if you're still genuinely attempting to lynch mafia?

He wasn't genuinely attempting to lynch mafia, so no.

Goodbar

almost 11 years

Idioteque says

Goodbar says

Idioteque says

You want to lynch someone without knowing an autowin mechanic, fine. You don't know about an autowin mechanic and leave your vote on him by accident, sure. You can't have both. Thanks for letting me prove my point that much better.

"Was sure he was maf" does not prove your point. If he thinks the guy is maf, he can't be game throwing because he's trying to play to his wincon

I'm saying he wasn't.

But, like, he didn't know the autowin mechanic and left his vote on on purpose because it was the person he fossed

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So is not taking an autowin opportunity automatically throwing even if you're still genuinely attempting to lynch mafia?

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At the end of the day, Blister, let's ask where you stand with your leash.

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Goodbar says

Idioteque says

Blister says

Idioteque says

I talked it over with Brad and we both agreed that you would and should know better, especially given that your friends were mafia. I can't help but feel disinclined to give you a third chance.

here's some points -

1.) i believed umi claimed bs and then nya was calling umi mafia. this interaction led me to believe they weren't partners
2.) jeffrey claimed last blue a few times
3.) i didn't understand the auto mechanic since i'd never been in that situation before
4.) i was sure he was maf and didn't want to prolong the game if i was just going to vote him anyway

4 is exactly what makes it throwing. You can't have 3 and 4. You want to lynch someone without knowing an autowin mechanic, fine. You don't know about an autowin mechanic and leave your vote on him by accident, sure. You can't have both. Thanks for letting me prove my point that much better.

"Was sure he was maf" does not prove your point. If he thinks the guy is maf, he can't be game throwing because he's trying to play to his wincon

I'm saying he wasn't.

Goodbar

almost 11 years

Togepi says

Goodbar says

Togepi says

Goodbar says

Idioteque says

I talked it over with Brad and we both agreed that you would and should know better, especially given that your friends were mafia. I can't help but feel disinclined to give you a third chance.

"Should know better" doesn't prove intent. Humans commit errors, in the real world

True but it proves precedent - the same precedent that players are more inclined to argue when it comes to reports and appeals.

This was a silly statement. He showed no intent whatsoever. The guy he was voting had been claiming lb while there were two other bs claims. He didn't believe scum would cc each other. He didn't understand the auto and didn't have enough time with the chaos to figure out how it worked

You don't think his circlejerk wasn't intent enough?

I myself can circlejerk and also play to win

what the hell is this