over 9 years

"repeatedly playing with the intent for another person to win "

CocaCola's games with Zwink:

From the games I've looked at so far (about 1/4 of them) there's a pattern where Zwink always votes at the start of the day and CocaCola blindly sheeps it, usually in through a lynch. Especially if they're both town. CocaCola never seems to misread Zwink from what I've seen.

They also continually talk about "carrying each other" and trophying together and that sort of thing.

I started on a pastebin for them but my power went out and I lost it so this is all U guys get.

over 9 years
idk I would not convict based on this. mostly just because there's not enough evidence of rolesharing. and giving high profile cheating based on some vague notion of meta abuse / two players playing slightly to each other's win condition...
... may be unwise
I mean I'm all for cracking down on players who play with each other and like "leave their friends for lylo" ... but that's a big step for the site to take and probably not a good idea to do that in unison with banning high profile players.
I'm gonna vote that they're innocnet... I don't actually think they're truly innocent though. Heck they might have role shared... I really don't think it's certain enough though based on the evidence... and it's not for lack of trying.
over 9 years
Meh, the games aren't nearly as entertaining as the thread itself.
over 9 years
That's a lot more than most of the people in this thread read.
deletedover 9 years
of course, closer analysis meaning i read a grand total of two games.
deletedover 9 years
in fairness the whole "instantly sheep Zwink" thing is a weird, kind of fishy looking strategy. but on closer analysis it seems pretty benign to me
over 9 years
ok fair point. systematic game throwing then, whichever.
deletedover 9 years
they would be throwing games for you, not abusing a meta
deletedover 9 years
what meta is being abused in that scenario arcbell?
over 9 years

Devante says

First of all GuyFawk this is like her second competitive round, so that top of the leaderboards bs you said was false, stop giving stupid opinions on this matter because you are making it worse for the pair.


Arcbell says


3. being sheeped as a rule by the people you play with is meta abusing.



No, it's not.


so if i play with 2 of my friends and they, to help me, make a rule where they always sheep me, that's not meta abuse?
over 9 years

Togepi says


NothinButTime1 says

that's how you show your true skills in mafia. playing with a group of friends in comp is just really cheap and isn't fair to all the other players that play to win without some advantage.


I don't want to discourage people from playing with friends or people that they know. However, it is how you play with your friends that turns out to be the issue. If you are repeatedly playing against your wincon for another user, then that's where it starts to become a slippery slope of "I'm just playing with my friends!!" to "I'm playing FOR my friends."

over 9 years

GuyFawkes85 says

My 2 cents:

I've played A LOT with Zwink (in the round and before too).

1. She's not the type to cheat.
2. She didn't run for the trophy (so no reason to cheat)
3. She didn't meta abuse with anybody (she did play with people she knows well, but that's something we ALL do)
4. She was always on the top of the leaderboard (no reason to cheat, again)
5. In the games she played with me, I didn't notice ANYTHING pointing to her cheating.

I SERIOUSLY DOUBT she cheated.


Thanks for your input.
deletedover 9 years
First of all GuyFawk this is like her second competitive round, so that top of the leaderboards bs you said was false, stop giving stupid opinions on this matter because you are making it worse for the pair.


Arcbell says


3. being sheeped as a rule by the people you play with is meta abusing.



No, it's not.
over 9 years
Read her posts in this thread gloating about how she earned every victory.
over 9 years

GuyFawkes85 says

My 2 cents:

I've played A LOT with Zwink (in the round and before too).

1. She's not the type to cheat.
2. She didn't run for the trophy (so no reason to cheat)
3. She didn't meta abuse with anybody (she did play with people she knows well, but that's something we ALL do)
4. She was always on the top of the leaderboard (no reason to cheat, again)
5. In the games she played with me, I didn't notice ANYTHING pointing to her cheating.

I SERIOUSLY DOUBT she cheated.


2. is wrong, yes she did. read the games. there's a lot of trophy talk that goes on in the pregames

3. being sheeped as a rule by the people you play with is meta abusing.

4. i don't think people who are on top of the leaderboard vs. not on top of the leaderboard have been any more/less likely to have been cheating, historically
over 9 years
unpause the round
over 9 years
tends to happen when rounds get paused
over 9 years
HOLy crap 5 people did it last round im ignorant
over 9 years
in other news, we had 4 people break 2000. is this rare
over 9 years
no one really cares now guy :/
over 9 years
My 2 cents:

I've played A LOT with Zwink (in the round and before too).

1. She's not the type to cheat.
2. She didn't run for the trophy (so no reason to cheat)
3. She didn't meta abuse with anybody (she did play with people she knows well, but that's something we ALL do)
4. She was always on the top of the leaderboard (no reason to cheat, again)
5. In the games she played with me, I didn't notice ANYTHING pointing to her cheating.

I SERIOUSLY DOUBT she cheated.
deletedover 9 years

xela says


Devante says

i'm going to start a war on the weebs, my team will consist of me, harry and Zovea vs. the rest.


nat and bell will be the only weebs spared during our assault


besides harry u just created a team of a bunch of cucks




ok good to know
over 9 years
With 2 Black males present there most definitely is a lot of cuck.
over 9 years

Devante says

i'm going to start a war on the weebs, my team will consist of me, harry and Zovea vs. the rest.


nat and bell will be the only weebs spared during our assault


besides harry u just created a team of a bunch of cucks
over 9 years
I'm liking this sassy side of Shivv
deletedover 9 years
"<-- read night 1 lol"

up your game