Epicmafia

over 9 years

Arguing with you is exhausting

over 9 years

pereking says

Arcbell says

pereking says

ya you got me arcbell, i didn't have an opinion about the mountain of evidence presented because I didn't write it in a pastebin

every mod wanted them banned which is why they were banned until jasper woke up and told us arcbell/shacky convinced him "it just wasn't enough".

pereking no no no im not saying u didn't have an opinion, i'm saying u didn't have an opinion with enough merit to present as an argument (:

and i'm letting you know you're wrong (:

well you didn't post anything worthwhile on the piratepad, which was the de-facto staging area for that cheating investigation, so you can see why i'd assume you didn't have a secret pastebin that supported your opinion that you just decided not to share with the class.

Togepi

over 9 years

I can't believe I am defending Arcbell, but I think what he is trying to say is that he has provided the games for the mod team to sift through.

It will all be okay...

pereking

over 9 years

Arcbell says

pereking says

ya you got me arcbell, i didn't have an opinion about the mountain of evidence presented because I didn't write it in a pastebin

every mod wanted them banned which is why they were banned until jasper woke up and told us arcbell/shacky convinced him "it just wasn't enough".

pereking no no no im not saying u didn't have an opinion, i'm saying u didn't have an opinion with enough merit to present as an argument (:

and i'm letting you know you're wrong (:

Arcbell

over 9 years

pereking says

ya you got me arcbell, i didn't have an opinion about the mountain of evidence presented because I didn't write it in a pastebin

every mod wanted them banned which is why they were banned until jasper woke up and told us arcbell/shacky convinced him "it just wasn't enough".

pereking no no no im not saying u didn't have an opinion, i'm saying u didn't have an opinion with enough merit to present as an argument (:

deletedover 9 years

if only Eris was still Caching, i'd buckle down and sift through this heap

Arcbell

over 9 years

Arcbell says

From the games I've looked at so far (about 1/4 of them) there's a pattern where Zwink always votes at the start of the day and CocaCola blindly sheeps it, usually in through a lynch. Especially if they're both town. CocaCola never seems to misread Zwink from what I've seen.

pereking

over 9 years

ya you got me arcbell, i didn't have an opinion about the mountain of evidence presented because I didn't write it in a pastebin

every mod wanted them banned which is why they were banned until jasper woke up and told us arcbell/shacky convinced him "it just wasn't enough".

Hibiki

over 9 years

arcbell, you've changes your indictment every 5 or so pages. i think it's about time you let it go

deletedover 9 years

Boy if I made a thread and posted about it for on-and-off 31 pages I sure wouldn't admit I don't have good enough material

You've got some balls

deletedover 9 years

Arcbell says

so if i play with 2 of my friends and they, to help me, make a rule where they always sheep me, that's not meta abuse?

I said this hypothetical is throwing, please don't misquote me Arcbell, it's not nice

Arcbell

over 9 years

Twist says

So in other words all the games in the OP don't actually prove anything because they aren't in a Paste

yes that is correct. this thread is a starting point.

deletedover 9 years

So in other words all the games in the OP don't actually prove anything because they aren't in a Paste

Arcbell

over 9 years

pereking says

Voting the same person as zwink at daystart is throwing?

and most of the time following through with it, and townreading zwink regardless of outcome.

Arcbell

over 9 years

mist says

not that i was there, but just because he didn't write stuff down doesn't mean he didn't read the games.

in my experience when you go through the trouble to read ALL the games in service to the mod team, but end up not actually writing anything, it's because you don't really feel you have anything good enough to write. i've experienced this myself when i don't write pastebins

deletedover 9 years

Arcbell says

i guess jasper just didn't deem your "i think they're cheating" to be all that pithy.

well rutab sure thought it was "pithy" enough

pereking

over 9 years

Voting the same person as zwink at daystart is throwing?

Arcbell

over 9 years

fine *wasn't enough evidence of role sharing. it was a while ago

mild to moderate meta abuse, yes. this zwink stuff isn't meta abuse it's systematic throwing, as devante pointed out

and i assure you everything worthwhile about the case was communicated to me. i guess jasper just didn't deem your "i think they're cheating" to be all that pithy.

pereking

over 9 years

You weren't a mod, which is why you do not remember the things I said in mod chat

does this ring any bells?

deletedover 9 years

not that i was there, but just because he didn't write stuff down doesn't mean he didn't read the games.

Arcbell

over 9 years

that's not what i remember from the pirate pad. it was just a big 'ol wall-of-me going through their games alongside riot's analysis and explaining how there was no rolesharing.

pereking

over 9 years

Arcbell says

so you read every game but couldn't muster an analysis? perhaps because the evidence didn't fit your predesignated conclusion? :-)

I read every game and said they were cheating, as did you

Arcbell

over 9 years

so you read every game but couldn't muster an analysis? perhaps because the evidence didn't fit your predesignated conclusion? :-)

pereking

over 9 years

Arcbell says

pereking says

i just find it funny that arcbell, who thought two users that were friends and coordinated to play games together and won every game they did should not get cheating, says two users who did not coordinate to play games together and were not friends and naturally developed a way of playing a setup (everyone voting one person as a reaction test) should

if you'd actually read the games closely yourself instead of taking riot's word for it and lazily voting to ban them you'd know these cases are nothing alike.

reminder that the only reason i was involved in that case at all was because none of the mods were up to the task of reading the games and making their own content...

that's funny seeing as I read every game and all the other evidence, and so did you. And I agree that they are nothing alike, as prevail was actually cheating.

And no I'm pretty sure the only reason you were involved in that case was because you involved yourself in it

Arcbell

over 9 years

pereking says

i just find it funny that arcbell, who thought two users that were friends and coordinated to play games together and won every game they did should not get cheating, says two users who did not coordinate to play games together and were not friends and naturally developed a way of playing a setup (everyone voting one person as a reaction test) should

if you'd actually read the games closely yourself instead of taking riot's word for it and lazily voting to ban them you'd know these cases are nothing alike.

reminder that the only reason i was involved in that case at all was because none of the mods were up to the task of reading the games and making their own content...