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Petition: Create Purple Hearts

deletedover 9 years

Hey guys,

I love EM a lot, but I feel Main Lobby has lately grown sort of stale. This is because of a bunch of reasons I won't get into, but what this has caused is an addiction to simple set ups like Fancy Pants and Coco's that pretty much crowd and spam the lobby wall. If you go to the main lobby page right now, and click back to the past 10 pages, 90% of ranked games that have been played have either been fancy pants, cocos set up, or guns and hookers.

The Problem -----While I recognize that these set ups have their place in the community, and that they are a good for beginners, this fixation on FP and Cocos is bad for the community because it decreases the diversity of set ups played, discourages an environment for trying new things (like trying different set ups or creating your own), and creates a gap between experienced players and new players.

My Proposal Here -----I understand that outright blacklisting these set ups is not the solution, as it would just drive people away or make people stick to unranked games, and is unfair for those who legitimately enjoy FP. Therefore, I propose that a good compromise is to limit red hearts to 10 a day, (renewed by 5 every 24 hours) and to create a third heart system separate from gold hearts and red hearts: purple hearts! (they don't have to be purple lol) These purple hearts would be limited to 10 a day as well, and would pretty much be the same as red hearts. The only difference is, these purple hearts would disallow playing Fancy Pants, Coco's, and all those sorts of set ups. This would allow players to play their regular games of FP and Cocos each day, but then also encourage them to try new set ups in Purple heart games.

I know this idea isn't perfect, but I think it's better than the current system we have now, and wouldn't be that difficult to implement. It would create a 4 step stage from unranked to comp, and would overall help to make a more interesting site. Sign the petition if you agree!

Edit: I'm okay with not slashing the amount of red hearts people can play with. If you see the petition below, it states only to add a third system of hearts that would ban fancy pants and give room for experimentation

If you vote in the poll please sign the petition in support! Thanks! :)))

What color would you want these hearts to be?
24
Purple sounds good
13
Silver
9
Blue
4
Green
2
Black
0
Yellow
deletedover 9 years
You're right, there is no harm in adding purple hearts by themselves. I guarantee that no one would play them though, because, again, people only play FP because they want to. If they play all 20 hearts on FP, then that is probably all they'll play, because that is all they do play. It is totally unnecessary.
Satan
over 9 years

Lux says


Satan says


Lux says


Satan says


Lux says

People wanna play different things. Limiting them isn't good BC otherwise they won't play at all o_o if anything this idea will decrease activity


it's not changing anything that's already in place....


yeah it is. What are red heart players gonna do with 10 purple hearts when they run out?


well right now they play comp games when they run out of red hearts, so whats different about a different set of hearts?

make the "purple" or w/e colored hearts the ones for the double point setups, or something.


BC in the end of the day they're happy with JUST playing reds. Why the heck would u wanna take that away in the first place


nothing.

is.

being.

taken.

away.
Satan
over 9 years
Not if the red hearts are kept the same, and it only adds hearts. it doesn't restrict anything because they can choose not to use them?
Lux
over 9 years

Satan says


Lux says


Satan says


Lux says

People wanna play different things. Limiting them isn't good BC otherwise they won't play at all o_o if anything this idea will decrease activity


it's not changing anything that's already in place....


yeah it is. What are red heart players gonna do with 10 purple hearts when they run out?


well right now they play comp games when they run out of red hearts, so whats different about a different set of hearts?

make the "purple" or w/e colored hearts the ones for the double point setups, or something.


BC in the end of the day they're happy with JUST playing reds. Why the heck would u wanna take that away in the first place
deletedover 9 years

Smorlicious says

and plus im okay with not slashing the red hearts. I just think we should try the purple hearts. there's no harm in trying at all.

Lux
over 9 years
I get that point.... It restricts people from playing certain kinds of setup that they wanna play....

Which is faulted in itself with smor's four tiered stage into transitioning ppl into gold hearts bc!!! Not everyone wants that!!
deletedover 9 years

Smorlicious says

and plus im okay with not slashing the red hearts. I just think we should try the purple hearts. there's no harm in trying at all.

Satan
over 9 years

Lux says


Satan says


Lux says

People wanna play different things. Limiting them isn't good BC otherwise they won't play at all o_o if anything this idea will decrease activity


it's not changing anything that's already in place....


yeah it is. What are red heart players gonna do with 10 purple hearts when they run out?


well right now they play comp games when they run out of red hearts, so whats different about a different set of hearts?

make the "purple" or w/e colored hearts the ones for the double point setups, or something.
deletedover 9 years

Satan says

Let me put this in plain terms:

Smorlicious wants to keep the existing hearts, and ADD a new type of heart that restricts the play of fancy pants/classic mafia.


How is adding another set of hearts, restricting, at all??


He said cut their 20 red hearts in half to 10, and make the remaining 10 the purple hearts. He wants to take away the amount of hearts people can use to play FP to force them to play harder setups, which in reality will decrease activity more than help it
deletedover 9 years
and plus im okay with not slashing the red hearts. I just think we should try the purple hearts. there's no harm in trying at all.
deletedover 9 years

Rutab says

How do you not even see that taking away something that people want to do is blacklisting? You're literally restricting them from playing what they want to. You're putting a stop to their play of a setup they enjoy. What do you call this then?


restriction... lmfao
deletedover 9 years
if players wanted to try out new setups theyd do so with their current hearts. purple hearts will only make it harder for games to fill
deletedover 9 years
How do you not even see that taking away something that people want to do is blacklisting? You're literally restricting them from playing what they want to. You're putting a stop to their play of a setup they enjoy. What do you call this then?
Satan
over 9 years
Let me put this in plain terms:

Smorlicious wants to keep the existing hearts, and ADD a new type of heart that restricts the play of fancy pants/classic mafia.


How is adding another set of hearts, restricting, at all??
Lux
over 9 years

Satan says


Lux says

People wanna play different things. Limiting them isn't good BC otherwise they won't play at all o_o if anything this idea will decrease activity


it's not changing anything that's already in place....


yeah it is. What are red heart players gonna do with 10 purple hearts when they run out?
deletedover 9 years
Lmfao
deletedover 9 years

Rutab says

If you think the forum community entirely represents the whole community at all, then I hope some day you get smart enough to realize that the forums are not a representation of everyone's opinion. Don't forget there are thousands of players on this website, and about 18 even bothered to say anything about this bad idea.


If you honestly think limiting red hearts is the same as blacklisting, then I hope some day you get smart enough to realize that rutabs opinion does not equal fact.
deletedover 9 years
remake and you'll have the forums actual opinion lol
deletedover 9 years
where's the option for no
Satan
over 9 years

Lux says

People wanna play different things. Limiting them isn't good BC otherwise they won't play at all o_o if anything this idea will decrease activity


it's not changing anything that's already in place....
Lux
over 9 years
O well regardless of like, the # of signs u have, the decision isn't urs to make
deletedover 9 years
If you think the forum community entirely represents the whole community at all, then I hope some day you get smart enough to realize that the forums are not a representation of everyone's opinion. Don't forget there are thousands of players on this website, and about 18 even bothered to say anything about this bad idea.
Lux
over 9 years
People wanna play different things. Limiting them isn't good BC otherwise they won't play at all o_o if anything this idea will decrease activity
deletedover 9 years

Rutab says

You're right, it doesn't. I know personally and first hand that this community doesn't want anything new. Remember when we created the new forums? No one wanted it because it was too much, with too many subforums. We spent a long time (the mods) arguing and telling the community that it was okay.

Trust me, what you want is only going to suck way more than help anything. You're wrong.


If the community didn't want to try it, why would people bother to be petition for it? So far you're the only person saying nay to trying something new.
deletedover 9 years
Let's not try it, ever, and that's the best idea I've seen in this thread.