Epicmafia

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Lucid fixing bugs lol

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Wasnt there a glitch with mason and killer

almost 10 years

It'd have to be tested, you never know with lucid.

I care a hundred times more about why the setup gets banned than if it gets banned. If killer can be masoned I'd say that it's a pretty valid reason to

Sims

almost 10 years

i volunteer as tribute for the trophy transfer

Renaldo

almost 10 years

Steven says

Probably not due to the high chance of mismason. No idea though really, it looks like a pretty bad setup.

Agreed on that last point. I remember there being a weird gamebreaking glitch with how killer and mason interact. It's been a while, so I'm not sure.

Sims

almost 10 years

remove turquoise's trophy and transfer it to someone that knows how to comp good setups

Steven

almost 10 years

Probably not due to the high chance of mismason. No idea though really, it looks like a pretty bad setup but I don't remember it well enough to say.

Renaldo

almost 10 years

isn't paranoid pandemonium basically played like reverse mafia?

it's probably fun and could be an interesting setup if people actually played it properly, but the way the site is people will just ISP and let the night roulette do its work.

Clair

almost 10 years

https://epicmafia.com/game/3790345

Giga13

almost 10 years

Fidelis says

Or demodding certain mods

that's technically the admins choice

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Or demodding certain mods

Giga13

almost 10 years

true.

Sims

almost 10 years

the only decision by the moderators I will ever support is mass self deletion

Giga13

almost 10 years

This is an excellent decision by the moderators which I unironically fully support. The enforcement of the precedent for this has been long overdue.

Steven

almost 10 years

That was a side note for if you decided to go through with the "PP will be banned unless someone can come up with good arguments" thing, not anything else.

pereking

almost 10 years

You asked for a reason and I gave you one.

Steven

almost 10 years

Killer can't joint with town and like previously mentioned those aren't rules so idk why you're citing them

pereking

almost 10 years

Steven says

pereking says

I don't know who removed the setups or for what reasons, but after reading this thread - https://epicmafia.com/topic/60963
it appears that killer and fool are roles we generally should not be allowing in comp setups, so Paranoid Pandemonium will probably be removed, unless someone can think of a good argument for why it should remain comped.

If you're going to ban PP, at least don't do it by citing a thread like that. And more importantly, make actual rules instead of just flipping a coin to ban or not every time a third party is comped or you'll just end up being inconsistent. And btw the burden is on the mods for coming up with reasons to ban not the other way around

"Has no 3rd parties unless the third party wins with either town/maf exclusively. Ex. Traitor wins with Mafia, Amnesiac wins with either town or mafia in Suppa Magical Grey Scales. This is because certain 3rd parties can be put into autoloss after a N1 kill, as well as certain roles being able to choose who they joint with (Fool/Lyncher townsiding, for example) which enables people to pick who wins."

Steven

almost 10 years

pereking says

I don't know who removed the setups or for what reasons, but after reading this thread - https://epicmafia.com/topic/60963
it appears that killer and fool are roles we generally should not be allowing in comp setups, so Paranoid Pandemonium will probably be removed, unless someone can think of a good argument for why it should remain comped.

"There are the *flexible guidelines* of *attributes commonly seen* in competitively viable setups, and it *certainly isn’t law*"

Please at least read the thread. Those weren't mod rules it's just bronto putting out there what people commonly used for comp setups. Have no idea why that thread was even made on the first place but just like you can have 11 player setups, killer and fool are not banned.

If you're going to ban PP, at least don't do it by citing a thread like that. And more importantly, make actual rules instead of just flipping a coin to ban or not every time a third party is comped or you'll just end up being inconsistent. And btw the burden is on the mods for coming up with reasons to ban not the other way around

Clair

almost 10 years

the more i play/think about it the more i think its a good setup

Clair

almost 10 years

whats wrong with it. you have no valid criticisms

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Seriously connor, that setup is not good.

Clair

almost 10 years

pereking says