POLL: Do you support the merge?

deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago

Do you support the merging of training & competitive lobbies?

Recently a petition was created to recreate/restickie the comp lobby. (See link)

https://epicmafia.com/topic/65191

There have been complains and what not. So I'd like to conduct a poll on the em public of whether most people generally support, or do not support the merge of training and competition lobbies?

Poll
Do you support the merging of both lobbies?
No53%49
Yes46%42
Enamoredalmost 12 years ago
i'll be like "hey, it's bad to do that. it's optimal to do this" and get completely ignored
Enamoredalmost 12 years ago
all i've ever been faced with in main lobby is an unwillingness to learn.
Ash0wnsalmost 12 years ago
literally don't have to be a selfish about everything. that got censored i think ol
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deleteddeletedalmost 12 years agoedited
no. We are in main lobby. You still have comp games.

If your games are full of "noobs," than that just shows the comp lobby was growing stagnant.
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deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago
Smorlicious
@Caroline,

part of playing again is helping new players adjust to it and learn it. I highly doubt 100% of your games are filled with people who all don't know how to play/a majority don't know how to play.
no, they aren't. because we are in training lobby now
deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago
@Caroline,

part of playing again is helping new players adjust to it and learn it. I highly doubt 100% of your games are filled with people who all don't know how to play/a majority don't know how to play.
Ash0wnsalmost 12 years agoedited
There never will be a perfect mafia site, and you know what, every single person here on this site is still learning and adapting, not just the new ones. Let them learn while you play. Basically what caro just said is that she wants to play with only people that know what there doing, thats like saying (real life comparison incoming) "This new guy they just hired here at my work, yeah he doesn't know anything lets just not bother with him instead of just letting him in and showing him some stuff to be nice about it."
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Enamoredalmost 12 years ago
can you please chill out
deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago
@Yoyo,

My initial support of the merge sprung from a debate that occured earlier this year, where because comp lobby was stagnant, comp players were suggesting that training lobby be adjusted to create a tier system that would encourage training players to join and try out comp lobby. Most training players were against it, myself included, because we liked training the way it was, and didn't want to change it to save a lobby full of, people we believed, were stuck up.

I support it now because unmerging the lobbies won't solve the issues comp lobby was facing before. If you raise the point entrance level, the lobby will become stagnant again, and if you don't, noobs can still join it.
deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago
if noobs wanna learn how to play, they can fricking play red heart games of the setup first. don't join to ruin the game jfc
deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago
Is your idea of a perfect mafia site one where people go to learn to play mafia but once they've learned to play the only thing that they can do with that knowledge is to teach more new players?
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deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago
Smorlicious
Caroline, the point of this site is to have fun. Why are we then making people essential go to school to learn to play a game that should be open and accessible to everyone? Here's an idea, have the comp players IN THE GAMES teach the new players! And maybe, if they're nice, the noobs will listen lol.
i don't join a comp game to teach players, i join to PLAY THE GAME
deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago
I still think that this thread is being used as a tool to get attention, I'm going to think that until you either change the argument you put forward or clarify it because right now it seems like you just put forward an invalid opinion to justify your stance
Ash0wnsalmost 12 years ago
So then be the better person and help them out during the game, thats just part of the process. Explain to them the situation instead of just tabbing out or something along those lines and thinking "This game is screwed" (had to avoid censor stuff)
deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago
Caroline, the point of this site is to have fun. Why are we then making people essential go to school to learn to play a game that should be open and accessible to everyone? Here's an idea, have the comp players IN THE GAMES teach the new players! And maybe, if they're nice, the noobs will listen lol.
Simsalmost 12 years ago
the debate started because one comp player wanted to separate himself from noob players. shivv isn't the representation of all former comp players, and the mindset that all comp players are rude jerks is just some bogus residue from when the lobbies weren't merged. if you weren't clearly biased against anyone that came from comp lobby your argument would hold up a lot better.

meanwhile, most comp players have acclimated to the lobby merge fine, and this is one of the first complaints since the merge happened.
Enamoredalmost 12 years ago
Happy0wns
@caro and your saying that the mentorship program actually works lol :3
youre
deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago
im not gonna join a comp game just to be dragged down the whole time by someone who doesn't understand how to play
deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago
Happy0wns
@caro and your saying that the mentorship program actually works lol :3
then get rid of it
Ash0wnsalmost 12 years agoedited
@caro and you're saying that the mentorship program actually works lol :3
deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago
Sims
i think the stigma that all "comp" players blame the noobs and don't try to help newer players is equally rude and uninformed.
well they should sign up for the mentoring program and not join comp games until they are 100% confident enough to actually try instead of asking questions and dumbtelling the whole time. if they don't put in any effort to try and understand setups, why should we help them
deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago
I doubt that makes you mad
deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago
@sims this debate started because some comp players want to separate themselves from noob players and make it more difficult for them to ruin the "precious" gold heart games.
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Ash0wnsalmost 12 years ago
A lot of them do, but not all of them yeah, some of them have integrated themselves into the new community perfectly and they're good examples of what the others should follow. Not just "THEY SUCK LETS BRING BACK COMP LOBBY!!!!JERKJERKJERK" lol
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deleteddeletedalmost 12 years ago
Happy0wns
Why not have this poll put on the main lobby page instead of on a forum page most people won't want to click on?
I suck at forums in general tbh.