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almost 11 years

Randomizing (?) mafia order of actions was a bad idea. It seems now that mafia cannot strategize who leads on a kill, which makes it harder in many setups to play optimally and unfairly gives town an advantage, especially in setups containing bomb/watcher where mafia can easily get into autoloss. Please go back to first mafia to vote leads.

Example: https://epicmafia.com/game/3471828/review I vote second, get caught by watcher

Revert back to mafia being able to choose who leads instead of random.
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Yes
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Did the person vote first and then unvote while you were still voting? I think in that case you have to unvote too, but that's the only scenario I can think of.

Edit nvm giga's probably right
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400000 says

If there is a pattern it'd still be best to go back to the one that has been the standard for years


Agreed


Renaldo says

Yeah it looked like in that game you guys changed and then switched the order in which you voted. Maybe that's why?


This too. It could be anything. Maybe whoever votes first after the watcher chooses their target (even if the person voting doesn't land on the watcher's target) remains first in the watcher report. It may be random, it may not be. I doubt that lucid did this on purpose without notification and that this is just a bug. Trying to replicate it is the best idea for now
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We're basically going to have nothing left until the glitches get fixed. It's really annoying having to constantly remove setups that don't work anymore for whatever reason.
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Giga says


Cantankerous says

i think epicmafia mechanics cease to work in gai and kittenz because they are bad setups. think of them as like the bermuda triangle of epicmafia because they are so bad.


There are really so many worse setups lol


well bad isn't a comparative word
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Renaldo says

Yeah it looked like in that game you guys changed and then switched the order in which you voted. Maybe that's why?


Nope look at the voting logs silly goose!
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Regardless don't remove the setups because we can't just remove all setups with certain roles like watcher/tracker/bomb. This is a large game mechanic and I suggest pausing the Round until it gets fixed.
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Yeah it looked like in that game you guys changed and then switched the order in which you voted. Maybe that's why?
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If there is a pattern it'd still be best to go back to the one that has been the standard for years
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Cantankerous says

i think epicmafia mechanics cease to work in gai and kittenz because they are bad setups. think of them as like the bermuda triangle of epicmafia because they are so bad.


There are really so many worse setups lol
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Link more games, maybe it has to do with whoever is highest on the list of players on the left, or perhaps it has something to do with the order of actions done at night, or maybe is has something to do with if someone else voted no one, etc. Finding a pattern might help if one exists.
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i think epicmafia mechanics cease to work in gai and kittenz because they are bad setups. think of them as like the bermuda triangle of epicmafia because they are so bad.
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I have also seen this happen on bomb but I wouldn't be able to find the link, feel free to test
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happened in GAI too, person who led on bomb didn't die
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That's weird, link me the game because I have never heard or seen this before.
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https://epicmafia.com/game/3471828/review

harrold votes first but goodbar shows up on watchers report
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this is false
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That one we just played, I showed up on the watcher report and voted second :P
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400000 says

I think about a month ago, no notice or anything. But this has happened twice to me where mafia got screwed from it.


Can you link games where it happened
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Rip bomb setups
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I doubt lucid did this intentionally, why would he. However, this is REALLY bad; please change it back; this is absolutely essential to the game...
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I think about a month ago, no notice or anything. But this has happened twice to me where mafia got screwed from it.
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When did this get changed?
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let me ruin your perfect pie chart
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What the