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lolwot says


Steven says

I'm 99% sure nothing is OGI for guiser unless its cheating but there might be that 1 thing I cant think of so I wont say 100


Bribes and threats are OGI :^)


What do they have to do with guiser o_O
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Steven says

I'm 99% sure nothing is OGI for guiser unless its cheating but there might be that 1 thing I cant think of so I wont say 100


Bribes and threats are OGI :^)
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I'm 99% sure nothing is OGI for guiser unless its cheating but there might be that 1 thing I cant think of so I wont say 100
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Giga says


Steven says


Giga says

Guiser has always been inherently flawed because if you're guised all you have to do is join another game and hooe someone sees, from that point on the player who saw it just pushes on the guised person until they crack and gg dead guiser w/ogi and no vio applied.


I'm not entirely sure, but I do believe this isn't OGI either, it's just an exploit of the way epicmafia works. Not much you can do about it.

I mean, you can't just unsee it if you see someone in the table, so it would be silly to give you a violation based on something completely out of your control and not outting confirmed mafia would be just like throwing so.


Yeah. The risk comes with guising. It's on the guiser if they get caught. People use past skype conversations as guisetests, that's more OGI than what I did.


That's not OGI. It's strategy to guise into people who others don't know anything about to prevent a successful guise test. All personal info is fair game.
about 10 years

lolwot says


Steven says


Giga says

Guiser has always been inherently flawed because if you're guised all you have to do is join another game and hooe someone sees, from that point on the player who saw it just pushes on the guised person until they crack and gg dead guiser w/ogi and no vio applied.


I'm not entirely sure, but I do believe this isn't OGI either, it's just an exploit of the way epicmafia works. Not much you can do about it.

I mean, you can't just unsee it if you see someone in the table, so it would be silly to give you a violation based on something completely out of your control and not outting confirmed mafia would be just like throwing so.


Just to play a little devil's advocate... you're not supposed to be LOOKING outside of the game you're playing in order to "spot the guised". You wouldn't see it if you weren't actively looking for it.

It takes some effort to go to lobby page, click the setups, and see the list of players at that table.

:^)


No, you could be scouting games to see the one you would join next, or just browsing the forums while in the game and see someone make a huge post when they were active in the game. You don't need to try
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imo if linking games to guise test isn't against the rules, neither should linking threads. i have no idea what the precedent on linking games is though
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Yeah @Steven and even then that's cheating and all cheating is OGI other than screenshotting roles
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Steven says


Giga says

Guiser has always been inherently flawed because if you're guised all you have to do is join another game and hooe someone sees, from that point on the player who saw it just pushes on the guised person until they crack and gg dead guiser w/ogi and no vio applied.


I'm not entirely sure, but I do believe this isn't OGI either, it's just an exploit of the way epicmafia works. Not much you can do about it.

I mean, you can't just unsee it if you see someone in the table, so it would be silly to give you a violation based on something completely out of your control and not outting confirmed mafia would be just like throwing so.


Just to play a little devil's advocate... you're not supposed to be LOOKING outside of the game you're playing in order to "spot the guised". You wouldn't see it if you weren't actively looking for it.

It takes some effort to go to lobby page, click the setups, and see the list of players at that table.

:^)
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I don't know how much has changed but OGI really was never applied to guiser unless it could be seen as cheating (any sort of website that allows you to communicate with the guised person, or skype, etc)
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Steven says


Giga says

Guiser has always been inherently flawed because if you're guised all you have to do is join another game and hooe someone sees, from that point on the player who saw it just pushes on the guised person until they crack and gg dead guiser w/ogi and no vio applied.


I'm not entirely sure, but I do believe this isn't OGI either, it's just an exploit of the way epicmafia works. Not much you can do about it.

I mean, you can't just unsee it if you see someone in the table, so it would be silly to give you a violation based on something completely out of your control and not outting confirmed mafia would be just like throwing so.


Yeah. The risk comes with guising. It's on the guiser if they get caught. People use past skype conversations as guisetests, that's more OGI than what I did.
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Giga says

Guiser has always been inherently flawed because if you're guised all you have to do is join another game and hooe someone sees, from that point on the player who saw it just pushes on the guised person until they crack and gg dead guiser w/ogi and no vio applied.


I'm not entirely sure, but I do believe this isn't OGI either, it's just an exploit of the way epicmafia works. Not much you can do about it.

I mean, you can't just unsee it if you see someone in the table, so it would be silly to give you a violation based on something completely out of your control and not outting confirmed mafia would be just like throwing so.
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now im reminded of this one anime where a dude was trying to be a calligrapher but this old guy criticized his work and said it sucks, so he flipped out and beat the crap out of the old guy, and then got sent off to live on an island with a bunch of hillbillies because he had a bad temper
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I think what I did wrong was I was too careless with my speaking after IC was implimented (which ironically I pushed for the creation of), if you remove my IC vios I'm at 4; 3 if not for this OGI and two of those are just ISP

Wait I have a GRS my bad not two ISPS
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if you're guised all you have to do is join another game and hooe someone sees


I used to do this all the time in order to figure out who was guised :^)
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Vancy says

We're discussing this. The violation is not set in stone and Giga, I'll pm you so we can talk one on one.

>steel


it's okay keyboard warrior that can't spell
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Vancy hinted at being Superman there...where's Giga with the kryptonite?
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disguiser is more or less fundamentally unfair in a competitive game, which will not stop me from taking advantage of it
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Smoking weed does help. Also anime.
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just kidding don't do drugs
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chillaxe and smoke some weed and watch anime
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Someone potty train the kid already.
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animegayboy69 says


Sachy says

I'm going to pm everyone and tell them what I think of them


same but i'm just going to PM a bunch of people the c-word


same because that's what I actually think
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Guiser has always been inherently flawed because if you're guised all you have to do is join another game and hooe someone sees, from that point on the player who saw it just pushes on the guised person until they crack and gg dead guiser w/ogi and no vio applied.