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deletedabout 10 years

using forums/outside site stuff to guise test is not OGI. however, linking to it in-game is OGI. using the forums/outside site stuff to do anything sans guise testing is OGI.

intent is not required with OGI. leniency is possible, but what giga did irrefutably deserves at least a note, imho honestly.

Steven

about 10 years

Basically, what I'm saying is if it is information that every player in the game already had access to, it's not really more OGI to link it: the information was already available. It would be OGI if it were some form of skype log or something.

Steven

about 10 years

Without gigas argument that "he would know the name of the thread" the link is meaningless. The link proved nothing except the veracity of the existence of such thread, which is not OGI, in the same way that googling the answer to a guise test is not OGI, in the same way that naming the thread and telling people to check it would not be OGI.

The action of linking the thread affects the game in no way worse than those scenarios.

Furthermore I was there when the mods explicitly made these kinds of things allowed, so unless it was changed (this is the one thing I could be wrong on) it is really not OGI.

deletedabout 10 years

That's okay, loony toon.

Steven

about 10 years

Connor if you think what Giga did was in some way worse than saying to look at the forums and tell them the name of the thread then you're simply wrong.

Clair

about 10 years

i think you're an edgy brat

deletedabout 10 years

I think Connor is a loon

Clair

about 10 years

that doesn't mean linking is legal. it's not

Steven

about 10 years

Connor says

Steven says

Giga's thing is obviously not OGI. OGI does not apply in that manner at all.

Outside sites that aren't used to prove your alignment being linked is not OGI. You can link to the strategy page, for example.

Giga's thread did not directly prove anyone's alignment, his argument that yoyo would KNOW this thread is what proved him as guiser. Guise tests are not OGI, and people use outside means (such as profile and google) all the time. Even if the actual link isn't given, saying something such as "google it" or "the thread's name is XYZ, check it in the forums" would be the same effect as what Giga didt. This is not OGI.

you're linking something outside of the game directly into the game. guise test or not it's OGI. if he hadn't linked it, sure. but this is a clearly set rule

Wrong. "OGI" has been allowed for guise tests since forever. Otherwise, profile guise tests would also be outlawed because they are "clearly stated meta in profiles".

Linking a thread and saying to look at the forums are in no way different.

Linking stuff such as linking the wiki to prove a role mechanic has also been by precedent not OGI, and it is the same situation basically. As long as the link does not directly prove your alignment in some way, it is okay to use information obtained from links and link it in the game. This is because such information is available to anyone and would be able to be shared with or without linking.

pranay7744

about 10 years

giga i already said that u didnt deserve the vio because u didnt know u were breaking the rule. i wonder what we are arguing about when both of us are saying the same thing

Clair

about 10 years

Apostasy says

If connor really did that then I conclude that he is on the spectrum

arcbell posted about it so i checked it out

it was worth it, imho

deletedabout 10 years

dang i mean i have nothing against you if you think a vendetta is warranted but this is cold

edit: oh nvm then.

deletedabout 10 years

If connor really did that then I conclude that he is on the spectrum

Giga13

about 10 years

I don't think he would have done it if he realized I was at 6 vios

And I am at 6 vios and a Note now btw (thank u Vancy Pants), in 25 days I will be at 5 vios if I get no violations within 25 days

deletedabout 10 years

Connor did you really search through giga's games and report him for OGI in a game we lost anyway because that's psycho dude

Giga13

about 10 years

I honestly didn't know that was OGI because I figured it's the same thing as telling someone to search for it

pranay7744

about 10 years

guise testing isnt ogi, but linking something is ogi

Clair

about 10 years

Steven says

Giga's thing is obviously not OGI. OGI does not apply in that manner at all.

Outside sites that aren't used to prove your alignment being linked is not OGI. You can link to the strategy page, for example.

Giga's thread did not directly prove anyone's alignment, his argument that yoyo would KNOW this thread is what proved him as guiser. Guise tests are not OGI, and people use outside means (such as profile and google) all the time. Even if the actual link isn't given, saying something such as "google it" or "the thread's name is XYZ, check it in the forums" would be the same effect as what Giga didt. This is not OGI.

you're linking something outside of the game directly into the game. guise test or not it's OGI. if he hadn't linked it, sure. but this is a clearly set rule

Clair

about 10 years

i would have reported giga for IC as well if i didn't know he was at 7 vios.. poor soul

Clair

about 10 years

damn i missed a lot in this thread as well. i'm really startin to fade away from epicmafia.com

Clair

about 10 years

Giga says