In a situation where you are a member of the town forced into a meteor due to scum NKing and it is mylo, is it acceptable to force NL and draw the game over taking autoloss due to conflicting votes?
I feel this needs more public opinion and elaboration because I had a hard time deciding whether I felt this instance here was GT or not.
I initially felt it was a note given the circumstances put under them, as sneak (in this case) was forced to either vote her town-read or NL due to Kart being insistent on her vote, but had dissenting opinions from another mod (and Kart herself) that the intent was clearly there in sneak's case to just draw it over taking a loss. You can read my comments in the report section as to what I was thinking at the time.
Edit: Please read the game and reports before posting.
your opinion:
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GT
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Not GT
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Retti, can I have mod-buddy-immunity to one violation and create the "Bump when Riddler complains" thread again?
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i don't know what you're upset about connor, i got opinions, which is the sole purpose of this thread.
yeah it is unbelievably simple, meteor says you must take action. voting nl isn't an action, clear gamethrowing no matter who he fos'd even if it was maf. ofc certain exceptions such as a town is being lynched and votes are kicked in which case it'd be fine to choose nl since game is already over
>retti is a moderator and doesnt know how simple this is
here are the meteor rules since you're incompetent: 1) If you have the meteor message and can potentially still win the game, you must take action. 2) If you have the meteor message and will lose no matter what by taking action, you can take no action.
It's as simple as that.
As the OP reads: "In a situation where you are a member of the town forced into a meteor due to scum NKing and it is mylo, is it acceptable to force NL and draw the game over taking autoloss due to conflicting votes?"
It is gamethrowing to force the draw. Whoever has the meteor is responsible for taking action.
he's wrong, what i said was right. people can freely vote their fos, if it's down to who votes first then this would mean voting first gives one town higher authority at all times.
retti, stifler did not have to vote no one - the vote was one nl from the initial game thrower, and one vote on stifler from the incorrect town.
Once stifler voted NO ONE instead of one of the above he automatically gave town NO CHANCE of winning.
(You make the verdicts with everyone as unclear don't base it on who was actually the mafia). Stifler could have been wrong in his read on cyber cyber could have been town and one of the other two could have been mafia.
That is the gamethrow for future references lock this I killed it.
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Are you saying that the game's outcome was solely decided by the first person who voted (Kart) and that whoever doesn't sheep that vote is a gamethrower?
taking a win away being unfair isn't the point, that's allowed. it's like in coco's setup 3 way with town, maf and killer, when town wants to take away one of their wins.
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shifter deleted afterwards so the verdict can't be really changed but i do appreciate talking about it as im not always sure about my verdicts and like to take community opinion
if you read d4 shifter shows his gamethrowing intention as he states he would nl on meteor and the way he says it is genuine not a tactical way to get maf to kill at night
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kart was voting someone she thought was scum, sneak was voting against kart thinking she herself was scum and that kart was town. cyber was just playing off a bad situation, who was given the win due to kart voting wrong; it was unfair for sneak to take that win from him by choosing to draw.
nobody since they're not nling, they're voting who they think is maf which is perfectly acceptable. altho the mods might vio a town if that town is the last to vote causing the forced nl
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that's still autoloss regardless though, it'd be a different circumstance with same result; he'd still have no chance to win
the underlying thing here that should be noted is that meteor is an awful mechanic that is played around and treated as an absolute where rational people could have resolved this instance without out, it's a shame there are such people with ill intent caused it to be implemented in the first place.
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Who is at fault if both cyber and Kart vote shifter, while shifter and sneak both vote cyber.
Which towny is at fault for forcing meteor by refusing to switch his vote? Kart or sneak?
if he voted kart or sneak, cyber would be able to hammer between him and whoever he voted. he had to bank on the chance of his read being wrong on cyber
