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> Mikalis Kamartis

Hello Phil

Long time no see. A lot of stuff happened back then, and I don't expect forgiveness or your respect. I made some mistakes, as did Arcbell, and our feuding was bad for everyone else. I took a long break from the internet and focussed on more important things in my life. I wouldn't say I'm a changed person, but I've found more important things to be passionate about now. I wouldn't mind coming back as a casual player now, though. Would you be alright with that? I can understand if not, and I don't feel like being an Abc and constantly evading as I know how boring that was to deal with.

> Me

You will have to write a public apology explaining your actions and your malicious attempts to shut down the site if you want to ever set foot on epicmafia again. Fruitoftheloom as well. Otherwise I'd recommend just sticking with what is more 'important' in life for you and forgetting about the site altogether.

> Mikalis Kamartis

I don't know anything about Fruitoftheloom or what she did. I also have zero desire to moderate or anything like that.

As for my actions, I believed Arcbell was deliberately trying to moderate people I consider to be pedophiles (not naming names), which he did later confirm were his intentions. I didn't believe you would stop him, which I was wrong about, sadly. I didn't want to see all those years of love get ruined by putting people in positions of power and believed that going 'nuclear' was the only way to get anything done.

I should have chosen a better route to air my grievances, and I'm sorry about that. I was rash and immature.

Let Riotkiller back on the site?
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no
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life's mental, but you should try to be as little of a about it as possible. this thread is painful.
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Jupiter says

I'm not sure trying to get the site shut down is worth forgiving, but yes it's subjective.


Maybe not, but it's worth considering at least, and again we've forgiven much much worse.
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for all we know Riot is probably reading this thread right now on an alt
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Sanctify says

What did he do


Yes, please enlighten the new EMers.
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Eventually I'll get an Answer, if it has to come from the admin himself
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Somebodeeh?? Anybodehhh?
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Harrold says

You make it sound like wanting forgiveness is a bad thing, Betrayal.


His post isn't serious because Riot clearly said he didn't want to ban evade and lucid's forgiveness isn't what he wants, he wants to be able to play mafia
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Harrold says

You make it sound like wanting forgiveness is a bad thing, Betrayal.


I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but Riot is still thinking about the past, he should move on with his future like lucid said in the OP.

and I don't think that he deserves forgiveness

if he wants to play em again, ban evasion isn't so hard, what he wants is forgiveness and acceptance by lucid. its up to lucid whether he gets it or not, not the community
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What did he do
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You make it sound like wanting forgiveness is a bad thing, Betrayal.
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I'm not sure trying to get the site shut down is worth forgiving, but yes it's subjective.
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Jupiter says

I'm not sure it's right to forgive and forget just because he won't do it again. That's pretty much saying that he can do whatever he want as long as he doesn't do it twice.


What is and isn't worth forgiving though is pretty subjective.
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Someone fill me in, what did he do?
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The thing is Giga, if Riot really wanted to come back to this site, he wouldn't have made a big deal out of it. Ban evasion is very easy and there are many ways to do it. He wouldn't make a fuss to lucid about it.

TBH what Mikalis really wants is lucid to forgive HIM, he doesn't give a sh*t about joining this site again and playing mafia games. He just wants lucid to forgive him, that or he just wants attention.
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I'm not sure it's right to forgive and forget just because he won't do it again. That's pretty much saying that he can do whatever he want as long as he doesn't do it twice.
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y not just use a proxy and a new account name why need the attention lolloser make newfriends growa less creepy mustache
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While I think Riotkiller took the wrong course of action in going about what he wanted, he was trusted before and held an admin position. I think giving him a second chance is fair considering he admined this site and only did what he did because of his care for the website (even if that's not how some of us see it, that was his intention). I think that Riotkiller is being genuine--he almost certainly has better things to do than disrupt a mafia website right now... if that's all he really wants to do (or if he considered sending these messages for that reason only), I would be genuinely surprised; I doubt that he would even bother taking the time to write these messages if that was all that he really wanted. I say let him back on the website.
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Sigh, I thought that was real. 10/10 Betrayal
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i love you too lucid <3 i am loyal to you
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Betrayal says


Seraphinite says


admin says

yeah i know dan, but then again, i know you are a better man than i am. i'll work out my feelings for a week and then come back to this. hopefully i can make the right decision when i'm less angry.


lucid, this might cheer you up and clear your mind, I'm a fan of yours and was wondering if you could say "Hi Seraphinite" for me. I want to put it on my profile.





And now the vios
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Seraphinite says


admin says

yeah i know dan, but then again, i know you are a better man than i am. i'll work out my feelings for a week and then come back to this. hopefully i can make the right decision when i'm less angry.


lucid, this might cheer you up and clear your mind, I'm a fan of yours and was wondering if you could say "Hi Seraphinite" for me. I want to put it on my profile.


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Phil mate, I'm also a huge fan. Could you delete all of my violations?
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admin says

yeah i know dan, but then again, i know you are a better man than i am. i'll work out my feelings for a week and then come back to this. hopefully i can make the right decision when i'm less angry.


lucid, this might cheer you up and clear your mind, I'm a fan of yours and was wondering if you could say "Hi Seraphinite" for me. I want to put it on my profile.
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isnt it going against anything you've said though phil? i know it was an attack on your site but you said you never wanted someone banned from your game for good back in the old days. Don't let riot have that big of a grip on you that you still carry anger/hatred
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Love says

people make mistakes, we've let back way bigger recidivists than riot


people make mistakes, true but when you betray somebody like how Riot betrayed lucid, u shouldnt give people who betray u a second chance