so like. why arent u emailing me?

Hi Gira how have you been? Remember me?

it doesnt matter see this is what i mean

i have the right to feel what i want to feel and you call me a child for it

sure i've been trolling but not once have i directly degraded your opinion

Stop trying to police my thought Sammie. I'm not telling you what you can or can't think, so kindly extend me the same courtesy.

Steven says

And everyone should follow and give back hira her thread

dw i remember why i quit

bye beyotches

rutab is a child

this discussion is over

Steven, awesome idea. I'll leave now ;-)

Sammie says

can we all just

not be transphobic

that'd be swell

either way it doesnt matter what you think about it and i can be if i want to be

B0oty - was hitler brave and strong to do what he felt was right, no matter what traditional moral society told him??

can we all just

not be transphobic

that'd be swell

bye connor this was fun lets do it again sometime

Transgenders think they know better than evolution

And everyone should follow and give back hira her thread

im going to be the bigger person and leave

You want I to be outdated, so you choose to accept all evidence that makes you feel good and reject all evidence that makes you feel bad.

Serious question here: if you met a homeless man suffering from pschizophrenia who believed he was Jesus Christ resurrected, would you be oppressing him by telling him that all the evidence points to him not being Jesus? Would you be out of line if you told him, compassionately, that he needed help? Aren't those who enable his delusions, and tell him he really is Jesus, doing more harm than good?

Sammie do you like male or female?

It isn't comparable at all. A transgender feels like the gender of his or her body, doesn't match the gender identity he or she feels. So you might be born in the body of a female while you feel you are male, or the other way around. (I am sure Sammie can explain this much better than I can.)
It doesn't have anything to do with sexuality. A transgender can be hetero, bi, or gay.

I also find it hard to fully understand, but I also think that's just because my body is female and I feel female too. These 2 things (body and identity) are linked for me, and that feels so normal, 'like it should be', that it's hard to imagine that some people feel like that physical gender doesn't match with who they feel they are. Maybe the difficulty we have with truly understanding shows how linked the body and the mind should be? And how natural it is that these people want a body that represents their identity?

You can't, by the way, compare being hetero, bi or gay with being a pedophile either.
Although being a pedophile might also not be a choice, the big difference is that relationships between consenting adults (in whatever which combination possible) are between equals, while pedophiles are attracted to children, who can't consent and which causes the relationship always to be un-equal by nature. I'm not stating ALL pedophiles engage in relationships with children (luckily that's not the case), but the lack of equality does make pedophilia incomparable to other sexual orientations. And that, I think, is precisely why pedophilia is listed as a mental disorder and also why being compared to a pedophile offends almost everyone.

connor is about to poop his pants

Rutab says

lmaoooooooooo

it is so not outdated dont you even

what about bipolar disorder? or depression? or those outdated or are people just feeling that way all the time because that's who they are?

the proper term now is gender dysphoria.

Rutab says

This is listed as a legitimate disorder so don't even

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender#Mental_healthcare

Transgender people may be eligible for diagnosis of gender identity disorder (GID) "only if [being transgender] causes distress or disability."[69]

get a clue, jackass

lmaoooooooooo

it is so not outdated dont you even

what about bipolar disorder? or depression? or those outdated or are people just feeling that way all the time because that's who they are?

so why again are you comparing trans* people to pedophiles

Sammie confuses me but they are brave and strong to do what they want regardless of how cruel society can be :)

I believe they are both mental disorders. It is my right to believe whatever I wish.

There is nothing wrong with having a mental disorder - I do not mean this as an insult.

that definition is outdated