Should we reproduce?

Satanabout 12 years ago

http://www.vhemt.org says we shouldn't!

right click and open image in a new tab to read the below tables!

EmmerrLouiseabout 12 years ago
cezarus
Natural selection will do the job for us.
If this were the case, we'd cease to use any medicines or medical treatment. Natural selection would have probably killed you by now but for this treatment. So unless we abandon the use of drugs and life-prolonging surgery, natural selection alone won't cut it.
Simsabout 12 years ago
Excuse me? I’m a proud parrotkin and you should not be discriminating me and my fellow parrotkins.

Typical humankins. No respect for otherkins.
Owenabout 12 years ago
cezarus
Natural selection will do the job for us.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_equilibrium
cezarusabout 12 years ago
Natural selection will do the job for us.
deleteddeletedabout 12 years ago
There have to be controls put in place for human population at some point anyway because human exploitation of resources is already considered to be at a rate which is unsustainable in the long term.
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Clairabout 12 years ago
the human population will have to have reduced itself to a reasonable point (probably even lower) for that even to be feasible
Kerryabout 12 years ago
what happens when there are no more kids left to adopt?
EmmerrLouiseabout 12 years ago
Satan
well since the law no longer supported forced sterilizations, they had to compensate them. (i guess?) idk
Oh, I imagined them leaving the surgery room with a cheque. I didn't know you could compensate retrospectively.

There's definitely arguments to be made for compulsory sterilization of convicted sex offenders (regardless of the offence) if it means they won't repeat offend (which is often the case).
EmmerrLouiseabout 12 years ago
Satan
welcome to sex ed 101
I'd love to say I was too busy having it to know any of this, but I'd be lying. Tragic.
Togepiabout 12 years ago
Satan
welcome to sex ed 101

during ejaculation sperm and semen are mixed, a vasectomy makes it so sperm is not released, so semen is the only thing being released (iirc) who knows. but REGARDLESS let's just all be sterilized!
Ty for educating us.
Satanabout 12 years ago
Peta
Satan
Peta
Yeah there's a very strong moral case for choosing adoption over procreation but I'll probably ignore it
this is in general discussion 4 a reason please discuss
I don't think the human species should necessarily be phased out but the human population needs to decrease. Hence adoption being good. I'm also a big fan of eugenics and infanticide but you can't say that in public without people jumping down your throat before you get the chance to lay out your arguments. Also I'm too lazy to lay out my arguments. Peter Singer says it all anyway w.r.t. infanticide.
this is a safe place, no one will jump down your throat, especially because this thread is about voluntary human extinction
Satanabout 12 years ago
EmmerrLouise
Satan
Satan
pretty sure a few states passed laws forcing sexual deviants and sexual offenders to be sterilized, although it was seldom used and they recently gave money to the victims as an apology???
sorry i meant money was given to the victims of forced sterilization (aka the sexual deviants/offenders)
Oh so they compensated the men who they sterilized? Sounds a bit illogical.
well since the law no longer supported forced sterilizations, they had to compensate them. (i guess?) idk
Satanabout 12 years ago
welcome to sex ed 101

during ejaculation sperm and semen are mixed, a vasectomy makes it so sperm is not released, so semen is the only thing being released (iirc) who knows. but REGARDLESS let's just all be sterilized!
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EmmerrLouiseabout 12 years ago
Satan
Satan
pretty sure a few states passed laws forcing sexual deviants and sexual offenders to be sterilized, although it was seldom used and they recently gave money to the victims as an apology???
sorry i meant money was given to the victims of forced sterilization (aka the sexual deviants/offenders)
Oh so they compensated the men who they sterilized? Sounds a bit illogical.
EmmerrLouiseabout 12 years ago
Satan
EmmerrLouise
Peta
If your testicles are chopped off then where are you supposed to produce testosterone
So in theory then, erections would be impossible and humanity would cease to engage in intercourse at all.

Not sounding so great now.
vasectomies don't result in the complete removal of testicles, it's just a snip so sperm is no longer released during ejaculation!
I'm certainly not an authority in the biological mechanics of the male reproductive organ (darn censor), but I was unaware that ejaculation was possible with the removal of sperm and/or testosterone. I learn something new everyday.
Togepiabout 12 years agoedited
Nevermind that's why because it's filtered.
Satanabout 12 years ago
Satan
pretty sure a few states passed laws forcing sexual deviants and sexual offenders to be sterilized, although it was seldom used and they recently gave money to the victims as an apology???
sorry i meant money was given to the victims of forced sterilization (aka the sexual deviants/offenders)
EmmerrLouiseabout 12 years ago
I know victims of non-consensual intercourse in the UK get 'compensatory damages' where they've reported the offence (usually as a goodwill thanks for turning up to court) - I know of someone who received £13,000 for getting her attacker successfully convicted.

I know chemical sterilization is a thing in some places, but I've found it difficult to find any crime statistics in those places. Moreover, it's also hard to distinguish between the 'causes' of abstinence/reformation of the offender therein - did he stop committing the sexual offences because of the castration or because of other reasons (time spent in prison or psychological 'cures' for example)?
Satanabout 12 years ago
EmmerrLouise
Peta
If your testicles are chopped off then where are you supposed to produce testosterone
So in theory then, erections would be impossible and humanity would cease to engage in intercourse at all.

Not sounding so great now.
vasectomies don't result in the complete removal of testicles, it's just a snip so sperm is no longer released during ejaculation!
deleteddeletedabout 12 years ago
in other news i have stopped judging people for their physical appearance =)
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Satanabout 12 years ago
pretty sure a few states passed laws forcing sexual deviants and sexual offenders to be sterilized, although it was seldom used and they recently gave money to the victims as an apology???
EmmerrLouiseabout 12 years ago
Connor
intercourse is not a necessity
Not a necessity, but the value of its existence is subjective.
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Togepiabout 12 years ago
...o.o
Clairabout 12 years ago
intercourse is not a necessity
EmmerrLouiseabout 12 years ago
Connor
why would you even allow such a ridiculous claim the weight required to be gratified research
It's not about weight of the argument, I'd just be interested to see the statistics for sexually-motived crimes where the population is virtually testosterone-free.