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Should we reproduce?

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http://www.vhemt.org says we shouldn't!

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cezarus says

Natural selection will do the job for us.


If this were the case, we'd cease to use any medicines or medical treatment. Natural selection would have probably killed you by now but for this treatment. So unless we abandon the use of drugs and life-prolonging surgery, natural selection alone won't cut it.
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Excuse me? I’m a proud parrotkin and you should not be discriminating me and my fellow parrotkins.

Typical humankins. No respect for otherkins.
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cezarus says

Natural selection will do the job for us.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_equilibrium
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Natural selection will do the job for us.
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There have to be controls put in place for human population at some point anyway because human exploitation of resources is already considered to be at a rate which is unsustainable in the long term.
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the human population will have to have reduced itself to a reasonable point (probably even lower) for that even to be feasible
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what happens when there are no more kids left to adopt?
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Satan says

well since the law no longer supported forced sterilizations, they had to compensate them. (i guess?) idk


Oh, I imagined them leaving the surgery room with a cheque. I didn't know you could compensate retrospectively.

There's definitely arguments to be made for compulsory sterilization of convicted sex offenders (regardless of the offence) if it means they won't repeat offend (which is often the case).
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Satan says

welcome to sex ed 101


I'd love to say I was too busy having it to know any of this, but I'd be lying. Tragic.
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Satan says

welcome to sex ed 101

during ejaculation sperm and semen are mixed, a vasectomy makes it so sperm is not released, so semen is the only thing being released (iirc) who knows. but REGARDLESS let's just all be sterilized!


Ty for educating us.
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Peta says


Satan says


Peta says

Yeah there's a very strong moral case for choosing adoption over procreation but I'll probably ignore it


this is in general discussion 4 a reason please discuss


I don't think the human species should necessarily be phased out but the human population needs to decrease. Hence adoption being good. I'm also a big fan of eugenics and infanticide but you can't say that in public without people jumping down your throat before you get the chance to lay out your arguments. Also I'm too lazy to lay out my arguments. Peter Singer says it all anyway w.r.t. infanticide.


this is a safe place, no one will jump down your throat, especially because this thread is about voluntary human extinction
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EmmerrLouise says


Satan says


Satan says

pretty sure a few states passed laws forcing sexual deviants and sexual offenders to be sterilized, although it was seldom used and they recently gave money to the victims as an apology???


sorry i meant money was given to the victims of forced sterilization (aka the sexual deviants/offenders)


Oh so they compensated the men who they sterilized? Sounds a bit illogical.


well since the law no longer supported forced sterilizations, they had to compensate them. (i guess?) idk
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welcome to sex ed 101

during ejaculation sperm and semen are mixed, a vasectomy makes it so sperm is not released, so semen is the only thing being released (iirc) who knows. but REGARDLESS let's just all be sterilized!
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Satan says


Satan says

pretty sure a few states passed laws forcing sexual deviants and sexual offenders to be sterilized, although it was seldom used and they recently gave money to the victims as an apology???


sorry i meant money was given to the victims of forced sterilization (aka the sexual deviants/offenders)


Oh so they compensated the men who they sterilized? Sounds a bit illogical.
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Satan says


EmmerrLouise says


Peta says

If your testicles are chopped off then where are you supposed to produce testosterone


So in theory then, erections would be impossible and humanity would cease to engage in intercourse at all.

Not sounding so great now.


vasectomies don't result in the complete removal of testicles, it's just a snip so sperm is no longer released during ejaculation!


I'm certainly not an authority in the biological mechanics of the male reproductive organ (darn censor), but I was unaware that ejaculation was possible with the removal of sperm and/or testosterone. I learn something new everyday.
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Nevermind that's why because it's filtered.
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Satan says

pretty sure a few states passed laws forcing sexual deviants and sexual offenders to be sterilized, although it was seldom used and they recently gave money to the victims as an apology???


sorry i meant money was given to the victims of forced sterilization (aka the sexual deviants/offenders)
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I know victims of non-consensual intercourse in the UK get 'compensatory damages' where they've reported the offence (usually as a goodwill thanks for turning up to court) - I know of someone who received £13,000 for getting her attacker successfully convicted.

I know chemical sterilization is a thing in some places, but I've found it difficult to find any crime statistics in those places. Moreover, it's also hard to distinguish between the 'causes' of abstinence/reformation of the offender therein - did he stop committing the sexual offences because of the castration or because of other reasons (time spent in prison or psychological 'cures' for example)?
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EmmerrLouise says


Peta says

If your testicles are chopped off then where are you supposed to produce testosterone


So in theory then, erections would be impossible and humanity would cease to engage in intercourse at all.

Not sounding so great now.


vasectomies don't result in the complete removal of testicles, it's just a snip so sperm is no longer released during ejaculation!
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in other news i have stopped judging people for their physical appearance =)
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pretty sure a few states passed laws forcing sexual deviants and sexual offenders to be sterilized, although it was seldom used and they recently gave money to the victims as an apology???
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Connor says

intercourse is not a necessity


Not a necessity, but the value of its existence is subjective.
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...o.o
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intercourse is not a necessity
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Connor says

why would you even allow such a ridiculous claim the weight required to be gratified research


It's not about weight of the argument, I'd just be interested to see the statistics for sexually-motived crimes where the population is virtually testosterone-free.