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over 5 years

What's the reason to blacklist this setup?

https://epicmafia.com/setup/531773

I can't seem to find any reason for it to go against the rules / to be farming or else...

over 5 years
@Carmen They can last way more, depending on the setup.
over 5 years

blacksnakemoan says

the reason is that they're one day games. that is the reason. it's a good reason.


Nothing wrong with single-day setups lmao, they can last upwards of 10 minutes if played right.
over 5 years
Finally UNblacklisted. Someone must have used his head in the admin/mod team.
over 5 years
Looks like you don't know the difference between 3 and 4...
over 5 years
A three way is not the same as a three player setup and does not justify a four player setup being ranked.
over 5 years
@blacksnakemoan not a good reason at all.

I've had 3ways that lasted over half an hour and games of 7p that lasted 10 minutes.

Try again.
over 5 years
the reason is that they're one day games. that is the reason. it's a good reason.
over 5 years

PatrykSzczescie says

They say that 4p setups are blacklisted because they're too short to play. Score payout has nothing with that.


I know, and the fact they have 4 players has nothing to do with how much they last.

That depends on WHO plays and HOW they play.

Still no reason to blacklist the setup (or any 4p setup just for that reason).
over 5 years
They say that 4p setups are blacklisted because they're too short to play. Score payout has nothing with that.
over 5 years
@SteelixMega

I just showed you ANY setup can be abused by anyone to farm points.

That's not a good reason to blacklist anything.

Also setups with just 1 mafia can be farmed very easily, but I don't see reverse mafia blacklisted...
over 5 years

JM123 says

probably because 4-player setups can very easily used as pointfarm


not to mention how they can be abused by cheating rings to get points outside of comp
over 5 years
Someone farmed this setup to the point that it pays 116 to win as town now:

https://epicmafia.com/setup/1076534

And it's not a 4player setup.

While this:
https://epicmafia.com/setup/531773

is still 45-54 %

and was now ALSO DOWNVOTED.
over 5 years
We should blacklist that setup cause Carmen is recommending it and she said lol in her above paragraph so is obviously not trustworthy.
over 5 years
FucĀ­king ridiculous. Tons of 4 player setups are awesome and hold tons of strategic possibly. Just because something CAN be used badly doesn't mean it NEEDS to be. Ban the people who use 4 player setups as PFs, dont ban that playercount as a whole.

https://epicmafia.com/setup/1440919

Just look at this setup for an example of a perfect compact setup. 5 players and TONS of possibility and balance. Do we ban this because it's not 7 players lol?? Poet has no idea what she's talking about, just because she can't make a good compact setup doesn't mean no one can.
over 5 years
Still blacklisted.

Still no good reason for it.
over 5 years
what's the reason?

why are we still here?

just to suffer?
over 5 years

GuyFawkes85 says

Any setup can easily be used as a pointfarm.


bruh ofc but in a 4-player setup it's easier and WAY QUICKER. plus u just need to bring 3 friends

in reverse mafia and other setups ppl at least have to put in time
over 5 years
Any setup can easily be used as a pointfarm. That's no reason for blacklisting any setup.

In ANY setup you can agree to farming (reverse mafia, just to bring an example, has 10 players and can be farmed VERY easily) points, achievements or anything, regardless of the number of players. Having 4, 7, 10 or 25 players isn't a good reason AT ALL.
over 5 years
probably because 4-player setups can very easily used as pointfarm
over 5 years
This setup isn't meant to be comped (quite obviously). Still, it's a good start for players who want to learn new roles and can be fun to vary a bit and not play always the same... They're all setup where you need to scumhunt and where you can have some degree of wifom (jan forcing a no jan, tailor taiorling dead and claiming tailored or claiming even another setup, spy trolling a bit or finding out the roles by contacting or pretending it's jan who no janned or setup 2, forger it's complete wifom...)

I still see NO REASON to blacklist it.
over 5 years
Not really bs. Even my 5-player setup (called Small One) is probably the best I could do with 5 and still "terrible" as far as setups go. I wouldn't want to see it ranked, let alone comped.
over 5 years
there used to be a rule that 4-player setups are all pointfarms (bs, i know, but that was the rule)
over 5 years
It's still blacklisted (still for no reason)
deletedover 5 years
was probably blacklisted a long time ago? not sure why tho it shouldn't be idt
over 5 years
Probably just that it can't be strategized.