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terrible attitude of mods

deletedover 6 years

https://epicmafia.com/report/249060

response from mods

"you do this constantly"

misconception- i get reported once a month for fake claiming and mods assume i fake claim every game, when i fake claim only when there is a strategic reason to

"mtlve does it all the time"-- yes and she did get vios for doing it without reason or strategy, but when she did it for strategic reasons she wasnt viod

if you are a moderator- you are supposed to read the game and be able to determine the difference between fake claims for strategic purpose and fake claims for trolling purpose

if someone fake claims every game regardless of their role then they are intentionally trolling. they know very well that they will be playing with new players each table and they wont know that they fake claim every game.

What this person in this game did was clearly trolling and had no strategic intent.

what is sad that even an experienced mod like bsm couldnt differentiate and just gave a juvenile response " you also fake claim"

this user came up with a weak reason after being reported to explain his fake claim.

i did not report for gt because this user was still trying to win. i specifically reported for trolling. but these mods immediately assumed i was reporting for gt when i mentioned in the report that i reported for trolling.

they kept saying "this isn't gt" - but i never reported for gt

Cody
over 6 years
good to see pranay still at it
pingu
over 6 years

Zhuorb says

why are you forum posting at the club


yeah what a loser lol
blacksnakemoan
over 6 years
at the


c l u b
PeanutMarmaduke
over 6 years
its friday night and hes at the club zhuorb, he cannot open the forums to reply to tell u that ur trolling
Zhuorb
over 6 years
why are you forum posting at the club
blacksnakemoan
over 6 years
it's friday night i'm at the club pranay, i cannot open a game on my mobile just to tell you if it's trolling
deletedover 6 years
No response?
deletedover 6 years

blacksnakemoan says


Hugo says

Bsm you dont get it. If slickah thought someone was mafia and wanted to get them lynched and claimed orc for it or if he was in the carol and wanted to avoid being shot by claiming orc then it is fine. But claiming orc for no strategic reason is trolling.

Besides you are still stupidly ranting about my strategy. Strategic decisions are not gt. You are handling this incorrectly because i also fake claim. But both are different. And that shows your attitude. You cant differentiate and you just want to stick it to me.


prove that he's trolling and it's not a strategy


This is why i like you. Because you keep responding. And this time you asked the right question. I will try and prove.

I request you to strike his comment from your mind and go through the game without having known about his comment. Let me know if you can do that. Then let me know your analysis. Because my entire claim rests on basis that he made up the comment. Which you would agree is easy to do.
deletedover 6 years

denial says

meta of the game is changing pranay

people got away (as in, they were townread and not insta lynched for a mostly anti-town move) so people incorporate the strategy more

i don't think the guy was trying to troll the game, and a player fake claiming every game isn't trolling. like i said its become a part of the strategy because a lot of people incorrectly townread people or ignore it, so it gives the user more of a leeway to successfully fish roles if they're maf or a variety of other things


I completely agree with your first paragraph buddy. But riddle me this. Would you fake claim a particular role every game where each game has new players? Would it be counted as strategy. I can understand why you think this case is strategy. If i were you i would think the same. The outsider syndrom gets in between. Because we empathize with the thought process of the reported. But my claim here is that his comment in the report is made up. You think it was strategy because you agreed with the comment. But think about it from a different point of view. Think about what he did before the shot. Think about what he was doing in the game. Whether he was there to find mafia or to claim orc?
blacksnakemoan
over 6 years

Hugo says

Bsm you dont get it. If slickah thought someone was mafia and wanted to get them lynched and claimed orc for it or if he was in the carol and wanted to avoid being shot by claiming orc then it is fine. But claiming orc for no strategic reason is trolling.

Besides you are still stupidly ranting about my strategy. Strategic decisions are not gt. You are handling this incorrectly because i also fake claim. But both are different. And that shows your attitude. You cant differentiate and you just want to stick it to me.


prove that he's trolling and it's not a strategy
denial
over 6 years
i'd agree with that definition of trolling, but i don't think this game was that kind of trolling
feenikss
over 6 years

denial says

meta of the game is changing pranay

people got away (as in, they were townread and not insta lynched for a mostly anti-town move) so people incorporate the strategy more

i don't think the guy was trying to troll the game, and a player fake claiming every game isn't trolling. like i said its become a part of the strategy because a lot of people incorrectly townread people or ignore it, so it gives the user more of a leeway to successfully fish roles if they're maf or a variety of other things


he was not trolling the game in a sense that he wanted to annoy ppl, but he did troll in a sense that he did not play to win, but instead voluntarily claimed whatever the f he wanted to amuse himself. that's still trolling
feenikss
over 6 years

denial says

meta of the game is changing pranay

people got away (as in, they were townread and not insta lynched for a mostly anti-town move) so people incorporate the strategy more

i don't think the guy was trying to troll the game, and a player fake claiming every game isn't trolling. like i said its become a part of the strategy because a lot of people incorrectly townread people or ignore it, so it gives the user more of a leeway to successfully fish roles if they're maf or a variety of other things


denial the reason people get away with it because moderators allow mtlve and other actors of this site to continue trolling with no implications

"fake claiming every game isnt trolling" - yes it is trolling when a guy admits himself that he is trolling
denial
over 6 years
meta of the game is changing pranay

people got away (as in, they were townread and not insta lynched for a mostly anti-town move) so people incorporate the strategy more

i don't think the guy was trying to troll the game, and a player fake claiming every game isn't trolling. like i said its become a part of the strategy because a lot of people incorrectly townread people or ignore it, so it gives the user more of a leeway to successfully fish roles if they're maf or a variety of other things
D3xTr0m3th0rph4n
over 6 years
@Hugo , and you used to think BSM was a good mod LOL
deletedover 6 years
Write down the below statement and abide by it.

Fake claim for playing the game. Dont play the game for fake claiming.
deletedover 6 years
Mods should be able to treat cases objectively without letting their personal problems with players affect their judgement. Here these dumb idiots are not able to differentiate between a strategic fake claim and a fake claim for trolling purpose. And therefore say "you fake claim too, so you deal with it"

That is the terrible attitude i am talking about. But people just dont read.

Tell me the last time i reported someone for fake claiming? I don't report it unless i can see clear intent to throw or fake claiming for trolling.

Like there was a player who used to fake claim cop with me guilty every game. Do you think that is the same as me fake claiming cop to lynch my fos?
deletedover 6 years

denial says


Hugo says

Did u read that he said by hyper he means legit. And do u want me to post screenshots of the repeat?


So before I read the game I knew he was going to say hyper meant hypo if he ever had to retract being orc (they sound similar and that's the thought that immediately entered my head knowing the context of the game of him being blue).


That's exactly what happened after you shot orc and wanted to lynch him. Yes earlier he said hyper = legit but he left himself a way to back out of the claim if need be


The first mistake you do is going into the game with assumptions instead of going into the game with a clean slate like a game member would have.

Did you notice that i didnt lynch him that day. I lynched outside for other mafia. If i wanted to just blame him for the loss then id lynch him straight away. So if i mishammer outside i can't blame him. So you can see how the game went. Besides how can u forget that he admits post game to doing this every game. And i not being in his previous games made me think he was real orc. Thats the problem with what he does. He has no strategic purpose. He made up one after being reported.
deletedover 6 years
Bsm you dont get it. If slickah thought someone was mafia and wanted to get them lynched and claimed orc for it or if he was in the carol and wanted to avoid being shot by claiming orc then it is fine. But claiming orc for no strategic reason is trolling.

Besides you are still stupidly ranting about my strategy. Strategic decisions are not gt. You are handling this incorrectly because i also fake claim. But both are different. And that shows your attitude. You cant differentiate and you just want to stick it to me.
blacksnakemoan
over 6 years
Because when we try that Pranay starts rant threads telling us not to tell him how to play an fückwits like you come and tell us that we're bad mods
D3xTr0m3th0rph4n
over 6 years
Why dont u idiots use notes and give him advice instead of treating pranay differently than other players
D3xTr0m3th0rph4n
over 6 years
If be retracted at any point its on town to tr him.. If he didnt retract its gamethrowing if he isnt pr or attempting a rs.

I cant believe I have to do the mods job at least once a week.. U incompetent fks
feenikss
over 6 years

blacksnakemoan says

I'm just going to ignore this entire thread since you think "I'm Pranay and I think X is mafia, so I'm going to claim cop and guilty X and not retract before X is lynched leaving town to believe I am mafia CCing cop" is a legitimate strategy.

I fücking told you that this would happen months ago when I first vio'd you for it, and when I vio'd mtlve for it. When you idiots fake claim PR roles, then you claim strategy, it sets a precedent.


mtlve's strategy is to troll. he has admitted it many times that trolling is his strategy to towntell. so essentially she/he is trolling on purpose and claiming trolling is a strategy to get away with trolling
blacksnakemoan
over 6 years
I'm just going to ignore this entire thread since you think "I'm Pranay and I think X is mafia, so I'm going to claim cop and guilty X and not retract before X is lynched leaving town to believe I am mafia CCing cop" is a legitimate strategy.

I fücking told you that this would happen months ago when I first vio'd you for it, and when I vio'd mtlve for it. When you idiots fake claim PR roles, then you claim strategy, it sets a precedent.
JM123
over 6 years