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Cop report :: Name before Alignment

about 8 years

I'm not entirely sure how people adopted this culture of outing cop reports in a particular way. People seem to be too wrapped up in the belief that cop is more likely to say name before alignment when giving their report. I'm averse to this established meta-belief. I'm for changing the paradigm of simply blindly following site-meta beliefs.

I just can't stomach the reason as to why people believe this and am of the contrarian minority party of believing this to be nonsensical.

I've tried to instil that this is wrong but p much nobody listens; it's tough to change people who are set in their ways about certain things. This site-meta needs to be axed down post-haste but changing a site-wide mentality is beyond my capabilities.

TL;DR: Format of cop report isn't alignment indicative.

I'm curious and interested to hear from those who believe this meta as to why they do.

about 8 years
My experience also tells that aligment before name is a solid indication for mafia.
about 8 years
there actually isnt a townsided reason to type both ways. there is a maf reason to type like a cop would naturally type ofcourse, and there is the occasional cop that types alignment first because they read the report first before typing.

but anyone trying to type out a report in real time from the moment the screen comes up will type the name first because they have no alternative.

not a reason to convict someone as the sole bit of evidence, but nothing is.
about 8 years
There are reasons to type both ways. People persecuting for this are dumb so because you're on the forums you can be a step ahead! w0w
about 8 years
its really simple. most people dont know WHY its scummy because they are metasheep that collect scumreeads in a back pocket because they cant use deductive reasoning. but there is a reason

whether you are real or fake, you know WHO you plan to say you have investigated... but if you are a real cop you do not know the result until you read it. in many situations you are pressured into outting a report FAST. if outting a report fast is important to your audience, you would naturally want to type your report as fast as possible... so you type what you know before the day starts first.

ALL cops know who they investigated last night before they read a system message, thus, the only thing a cop could type first if they are under this pressure is the name of the person they investigated. as they are typing this they will see the system message and will then know if they are guilty or innocent.

this read only works if both people try to out the report as fast as possible, and can easily have exceptions in certain circumstances, so dont take it as the word of god like any read... but it checks out
about 8 years
Cop here
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what if you are japanese and read your reports from right to left like manga? this meta is highly anglo/americentric.
about 8 years

hedger says

this thread is pointless. Anyone that says alignment before name is mafia because they already knew the report they were going to make. Real cops read X is sided with Y and immediately cut that down to X is Y. Nobody does it the opposite way around unless they only claim their report later on in the game.


If I dont have it c/ped already I just look at the last word of my report and type it and then the name because I already know who I investigated.
about 8 years
Cash rules everything around me
about 8 years
You don't talk about these things outside of game. Btw I bet you claimed cop as maf with report first and got lynched for it.
about 8 years
I say "guilty (username)" and i have been lynched plenty of times for it..but i will never change. Fk the system
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Dag says

cop here guilty on X is the scummiest claim ever


NO
about 8 years
Ok I understand the thought-process behind why people believe this now but I still think it holds little weight of reasoning to decide a lynch in cops and should only matter in situations where you have no clue of who's real in cops.


hedger says

this thread is pointless. Anyone that says alignment before name is mafia because they already knew the report they were going to make. Real cops read X is sided with Y and immediately cut that down to X is Y. Nobody does it the opposite way around unless they only claim their report later on in the game.


Not pointless; the purpose of the thread was to provide insight to me on why people believed this way of thinking.
And I disagree with what you're saying because I've came across several users who as real cop have said alignment before name. For instance, the post above yours:


qeSuited says

When I first started playing, no one taught me the format for cop reports. I used inno name always


To be blunt, I'm saying this cop meta shouldn't be highly valued so much that users blindly vote without considering the rest of the content from cop CCs.

If you're unsure in two newbie cop CCs and using this meta as a deciding factor to hammer then that's okay. But if the case is a newbie cop claim VS an experienced cop claim and the newbie outs name before alignment then that shouldn't be a major deciding factor.

And yeah, the overwhelming irony of xxerox's post is comical.
about 8 years
cop here guilty on X is the scummiest claim ever
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it's more people who play flowchart who believe this. people who actaully use their brains will realize its not alignment indicative.
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My reports have always been: Cop here with a inno/guilty on x.

If you don't like my report you can succ me.
about 8 years
I also love how he misspelled sense.
about 8 years

xxerox says

How does saying : Mafia is Darron make any sence? Do you even know how to write in english? There are rules in writing. Breaking those rules show that you are either do not know how to speak or you pre - made the report.



xxerox says

Darron is mafia makes much more sence. Thats propper grammar!


just drawing attention to these posts
about 8 years
Let me break it down for you. It's really quite simple.

Acceptable reports:

Brownpimp inno
Brownpimp is village
Inno on bownpimp

Unacceptable reports:

Brownpimp maf
Brownpimp is guilty
Guilty on brownpimp
about 8 years

hedger says

this thread is pointless. Anyone that says alignment before name is mafia because they already knew the report they were going to make. Real cops read X is sided with Y and immediately cut that down to X is Y. Nobody does it the opposite way around unless they only claim their report later on in the game.


Opposite way was standard for close to 6 years and most vets, myself included, still do it out of habit. I consciously kept doing it that way as a counterpoint (against my alignment depending on the table) but that's just me-plenty of older players keep it that way purely out of habit.

I'd be really cautious of who you're trying this on-I get the reasoning and for a lot of players, especially ones 2014 or later, it works, but it's not a reliable tell for older ones.

Gerry says

I've only lynched town like 3 times that said the alignment before the name. compared to like 100 mafs


tbh these were probably all me
about 8 years
this thread is pointless. Anyone that says alignment before name is mafia because they already knew the report they were going to make. Real cops read X is sided with Y and immediately cut that down to X is Y. Nobody does it the opposite way around unless they only claim their report later on in the game.
about 8 years
When I first started playing, no one taught me the format for cop reports. I used inno name always
about 8 years
"hey mafbros what should my report be?"

"Uhhhhh idk just get an inno on vilden"

"Kkz :P"

Nobody says just get vilden as inno. So the report being first is already in the mafia's head.
about 8 years
When I am cop during the night phase, I copy the name of the person I was investigating. Then during the day phase, I can just paste the name and then the report. It's an ease of use thing. Whenever I see alignment before name, I imagine that whoever writing the report considered the alignment less of a variable than the name. Granted I'm not going to lynch exclusively because of that meta, but it would be a factor if deciding between two cop claims.
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xxerox says

Thats propper grammar!

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I should've known that this was the Poles doing.