If mafia kills a blue d1 its pretty much autowin for town.

The only reason people still play this setup over the other ones is that we have newer players who don't like to think, and this is the least "thinky" competitive setup right now. Yes, it is INCREDIBLY town sided. What's funny is how often town STILL fails.

http://www.epicmafia.com/game/542362
PROVES MASSCLAIMING IS AUTOTOWN

Yes, we all know massclaiming d1 leads to town autowin. This setup is unbalanced, and the only reason the stats don't show that is because there are a whole lot of failtowns in the world.

Massclaim only works if a blue is shot n1. If a PR is shot n1, massclaiming gives maf the opportunity to make it to 3-way lylo with no clears, which is only 33% town win. They do have to get someone ML'd to do that, but that's not the hardest thing to do. Good maf in that situation have two maf cc blue and one cc a PR.

http://www.epicmafia.com/game/544686 - another game as proof of massclaim auto win!!!

Venser, assuming mafia can always get someone to be ML'd d1, the odds would be
3/7(shooting blue) + 4/7(shooting PR)*1/3(3-way) = 13/21 =~ 62% town win
That's assuming town can't scumhunt and mafia will always get someone ML'd. Even in that situation this setup is broken.

About time someone ran the numbers. With that kind of logic out in the open, it becomes clear that this game is just point farming.

http://www.epicmafia.com/game/545295 <-I suggested massclaim D1 after a blu got killed. Town ignored me and maf disagreed.

I suggest active days / softclaim as PR and selfwatch... proved effective a couple of times.. ;)

and: quote sean. this is a pointpharm

This is my favorite one! :D Good job on making this!!!!!!!!!!

rest in peace empath

INB4 retard town say "lets use ML on orc"

this is prob one of the worst set ups mass claim can break it so why the fuck was it picked

Massclaim d1 for autowin.

I hate this setup

WORST COMPETETIVE SETUP EVER. ITS TOWN AUTOWIN STARTING FROM D1. Shame on the person who picked it.

holy shit does em suck badly 50% town win wtf

Venser, assuming mafia can always get someone to be ML'd d1, the odds would be 3/7(shooting blue) + 4/7(shooting PR)*1/3(3-way) = 13/21 =~ 62% town win That's assuming town can't scumhunt and mafia will always get someone ML'd. Even in that situation this setup is broken.

Oh, gah.
If you are the clear, please do not lead a reaction test lynch when maf can kick.
...its just a bad idea in general.

Broken by massclaim, please uncomp.